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From: "Mattias Waldau" <mattias.waldau@abc.se>
To: <alc@PublicPropertySoftware.com>
Cc: "'caml Mailing List''" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] Two types of efficiency (Was Efficiency of 'a list)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 08:46:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <041d01c31208$f02327e0$0200a8c0@gateway> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EB4922A.A69C2038@PublicPropertySoftware.com>

> alc@PublicPropertySoftware.com
> I've done a little timing of things, and according to my 
> results: If you care about efficiency and use OCaml, you 
> should use lists 
> fairly often, ie if you are always looping and accessing the 
> elements in order. OCaml can iterate through a list 

We are talking about two kinds of efficiency:
1. Absolute speed for mostly small benchmarks
2. Scalable programs, i.e. they work fine for input of length 100, 
   but goes on forever for input of length 1000.

Scalability is the one that I am talking about, and is the one that 
mostly gets bitten by inappropriate use of lists. For me scalability 
is the most important.

If you use Map/Hash/Set small benchmarks will be slower, however your
programs are more likely to be scalable. 

Languages like PHP have more advanced built-in datastructures with
language syntax to support them. In Ocaml, we can create the same
program, however, there is no syntax support, and we have to add
declarations like

module StringSet = Set.Make(struct 
      type t = string
      let compare = compare
    end) ;;

It would be nice if the typechecker could deduce the type of the set and
add the above declaration automatically to the program. That would make
it easier for beginners to use the advanced datastructures of Ocaml.

 



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-04  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-02 19:27 [Caml-list] Efficiency of 'a list Eray Ozkural
2003-05-03  5:43 ` Mattias Waldau
2003-05-03  8:16   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-05-03 14:12   ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-05-03 18:43     ` Mattias Waldau
2003-05-03 20:01       ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-03 23:17       ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-04  2:08       ` cashin
2003-05-04  4:08         ` alc
2003-05-04  5:32           ` Ed L Cashin
2003-05-04  6:46           ` Mattias Waldau [this message]
2003-05-04  7:35             ` [Caml-list] Two types of efficiency (Was Efficiency of 'a list) John Max Skaller
2003-05-04 11:52               ` Olivier Andrieu
2003-05-05 11:04                 ` John Max Skaller
2003-05-04 16:48               ` brogoff
2003-05-04  7:43             ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-05-04 12:50               ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-04 12:48             ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-05  7:31             ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-05-05 11:11               ` Mattias Waldau
2003-05-05 13:17                 ` John Max Skaller
2003-05-05 11:49               ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-05 11:57               ` Yaron M. Minsky
2003-05-05 13:32                 ` John Max Skaller
2003-05-06  2:49                   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-05-06 12:30                     ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-05-07  2:05                       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-05-05 16:38                 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-05-05 18:05                   ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-06 13:28                     ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2003-05-13 11:35                   ` [Caml-list] Data Structure Libraries (was: Two types of efficiency) Oleg Trott
2003-05-04  7:55           ` [Caml-list] Efficiency of 'a list Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-05-04 10:56             ` Neel Krishnaswami
2003-05-04 12:56               ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-04 13:35                 ` Falk Hueffner
2003-05-04 12:38           ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-04  8:07         ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-05-04 15:54           ` Ed L Cashin
2003-05-05 23:52           ` Garry Hodgson
2003-05-03 20:03   ` Eray Ozkural
2003-05-03 21:13 ` Lauri Alanko
2003-05-03 22:03   ` Eray Ozkural

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