* RE: [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
@ 2002-02-22 10:50 Gerard Huet
2002-02-22 13:07 ` Johan Georg Granström
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From: Gerard Huet @ 2002-02-22 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles-Albert Lehalle; +Cc: caml-list
At 11:32 22/02/02 +0100, you wrote:
>I use tuareg emacs-mode:
>
>http://www-rocq.inria.fr/~acohen/tuareg/
>
So do I. I customised it a bit for keyword value and stuff.
Not entirely satisfactory, and I have to fight the "electric" automatic
indentation which has different notions than me on what is nicely presented
code.
Gérard
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* RE: [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
@ 2002-02-22 10:32 Charles-Albert Lehalle
2002-02-22 10:41 ` Albert Cohen
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From: Charles-Albert Lehalle @ 2002-02-22 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
I use tuareg emacs-mode:
http://www-rocq.inria.fr/~acohen/tuareg/
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Johan Georg Granström [mailto:georg.g@home.se]
> Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2002 11:15
> À : caml-list@inria.fr
> Objet : [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
>
>
> What is the status on this question?
>
> > Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at> writes:
> > [Snip]
> >
> > By the way, is there any caml-mode for Emacs and the
> revised syntax ?
>
> With reference to
>
> > Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr> writes:
> > I don't think so but there is a request for that (Gérard Huet asked
> > me yesterday). I use a very old caml-light-or-what emacs mode and I
> > am too lazy to look at emacs-lisp to create my mode.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> - Johan Granström
>
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* Re: [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
2002-02-22 10:32 Charles-Albert Lehalle
@ 2002-02-22 10:41 ` Albert Cohen
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From: Albert Cohen @ 2002-02-22 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles-Albert Lehalle; +Cc: caml-list
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:32:08AM +0100, Charles-Albert Lehalle wrote:
> I use tuareg emacs-mode:
>
> http://www-rocq.inria.fr/~acohen/tuareg/
Tuareg does not actually implement any "real" support for the revised
syntax, but a few hacks have been provided to make the things look all
right in general.
I'd be glad to get more comments/bug-reports about cases of bad
indentation/behavior with the revised syntax !
By the way, version 1.40b is now quite stable, use it preferably to
1.38.x. Final version is coming soon...
Albert
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* Re: [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem)
@ 2002-02-04 20:11 Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 2:01 ` Brian Rogoff
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From: Markus Mottl @ 2002-02-04 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mattias Waldau; +Cc: caml-list
On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Mattias Waldau wrote:
> So, I think we should encourage people to try the Camlp4-syntax
> and let people have their comments. If people comment into this
> mailing list, more people will look into it and maybe have their
> own opinion.
This will probably not happen: there is just not enough incentive to
learn a new syntax which is unlikely to become widespread - because it
is non-standard.
Regards,
Markus Mottl
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* Re: [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem)
2002-02-04 20:11 [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem) Markus Mottl
@ 2002-02-05 2:01 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-02-05 10:33 ` Markus Mottl
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From: Brian Rogoff @ 2002-02-05 2:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Mottl; +Cc: Mattias Waldau, caml-list
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Markus Mottl wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Mattias Waldau wrote:
> > So, I think we should encourage people to try the Camlp4-syntax
> > and let people have their comments. If people comment into this
> > mailing list, more people will look into it and maybe have their
> > own opinion.
>
> This will probably not happen: there is just not enough incentive to
> learn a new syntax which is unlikely to become widespread - because it
> is non-standard.
There is probably not enough incentive to learn a new language, like, say,
OCaml, which is unlikely to become widespread, either. I guess my internal
optimization wetware is badly broken ;-)
If you want Revised to become popular, start writing all of your code in
Revised.
-- Brian
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* Re: [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem)
2002-02-05 2:01 ` Brian Rogoff
@ 2002-02-05 10:33 ` Markus Mottl
2002-02-05 11:53 ` Remi VANICAT
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From: Markus Mottl @ 2002-02-05 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian Rogoff; +Cc: Mattias Waldau, caml-list
On Tue, 05 Feb 2002, Brian Rogoff wrote:
> If you want Revised to become popular, start writing all of your code
> in Revised.
Having seriously considered revised syntax as alternative, the only but
finally decisive argument against switching was that (nearly) nobody else
was using it. If you want to make your code available to other people,
you'll have to take social aspects of programming into consideration, too.
Chicken-and-egg problems can usually only be solved by some authoritative
instance. If the OCaml-team decides otherwise, I'll surely not hang
myself on the next tree. OCaml will still be a great language. It might
just have been an even greater one...
Regards,
Markus Mottl
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* Re: [Caml-list] syntax change (was: camlp4o problem)
2002-02-05 10:33 ` Markus Mottl
@ 2002-02-05 11:53 ` Remi VANICAT
2002-02-22 10:15 ` [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax? Johan Georg Granström
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From: Remi VANICAT @ 2002-02-05 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at> writes:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2002, Brian Rogoff wrote:
> > If you want Revised to become popular, start writing all of your code
> > in Revised.
>
> Having seriously considered revised syntax as alternative, the only
> but finally decisive argument against switching was that (nearly)
> nobody else was using it. If you want to make your code available to
> other people, you'll have to take social aspects of programming into
> consideration, too.
may be. But camlp4 is written in revised syntax, and there are a lot
of people using it (at least I believe). So the fact that a library or a
tool is written in revised or standard library doesn't change anything
for those who use it. The only problem is for those who want to change
the source, but it's not so hard to learn this syntax if you want to
use it.
By the way, is there any caml-mode for Emacs and the revised syntax ?
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* [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
2002-02-05 11:53 ` Remi VANICAT
@ 2002-02-22 10:15 ` Johan Georg Granström
2002-02-22 10:21 ` Christian Gillot
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From: Johan Georg Granström @ 2002-02-22 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
What is the status on this question?
> Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at> writes:
> [Snip]
>
> By the way, is there any caml-mode for Emacs and the revised syntax ?
With reference to
> Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr> writes:
> I don't think so but there is a request for that (Gérard Huet asked
> me yesterday). I use a very old caml-light-or-what emacs mode and I
> am too lazy to look at emacs-lisp to create my mode.
Thanks in advance,
- Johan Granström
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* Re: [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax?
2002-02-22 10:15 ` [Caml-list] Emacs mode for revised syntax? Johan Georg Granström
@ 2002-02-22 10:21 ` Christian Gillot
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From: Christian Gillot @ 2002-02-22 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johan Georg Granström; +Cc: caml-list
Hi,
El dv, 22-02-2002 a las 11:15, Johan Georg Granström escribió:
> What is the status on this question?
>
> > Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at> writes:
> > [Snip]
> >
> > By the way, is there any caml-mode for Emacs and the revised syntax ?
>
> With reference to
>
> > Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr> writes:
> > I don't think so but there is a request for that (Gérard Huet asked
> > me yesterday). I use a very old caml-light-or-what emacs mode and I
> > am too lazy to look at emacs-lisp to create my mode.
In the mailing list tuareg's author told he wouldn't adapt it to the
revised syntax, so I'm looking forward doing it this week-end. So if
you're just be patient, you'll got it ;o)
Regards,
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