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From: Jon Harrop <jdh30@cam.ac.uk>
To: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [oliver: Re: [Caml-list] Should be INSIDE STANDARD-LIB: Hashtbl.keys]
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:06:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200404252106.34024.jdh30@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1082919271.3944.0.camel@qrnik>

On Sunday 25 April 2004 7:54 pm, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
> W liście z sob, 24-04-2004, godz. 05:46 +0100, Jon Harrop napisał:
> > I don't want the overhead of hash tables carrying around and updating an
> > int.
>
> But it already does it! (to know when to rehash)

Another int, then. ;-)

In case anyone is interested, my peeve about carrying the length of a list 
around inside the list in the case of the STL came from my use of a data 
structure for molecular dynamics: The atomic structure is described by 
particle coordinates within a cubic box under periodic boundary conditions. 
Conventionally, the box is partitioned into voxels so that you can lookup 
neighbouring atoms efficiently. Each voxel contains a list of atoms within 
the voxel. I was often using ~10^6 voxels, so the STL list was carrying 4Mb 
of unecessary data with my data structure.

Thus, in the context of ocaml, I'd like to see "low-level" libraries which 
carry as little as possible. This isn't just for cache coherence but also 
because I think it is good design. If someone wants a Hashtbl which carries 
(and updates) baggage around with it to save you from having to record things 
yourself then they can create a "higher-level" implementation from the 
original. So, in summary, I like Hashtbl just the way it is... lean and 
mean. :-)

Cheers,
Jon.

PS: I tried to do the same thing in Mathematica but it can only pack the whole 
(4-dimensions of my) nested list into an array, or none of it. :(

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-25 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-23 20:09 Oliver Bandel
2004-04-24  3:00 ` skaller
2004-04-24  4:46   ` Jon Harrop
2004-04-24 10:39     ` Oliver Bandel
2004-04-25 18:54     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-04-25 20:06       ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2004-04-26 10:14         ` Richard Jones
2004-04-26 17:13           ` Jon Harrop
2004-04-24  6:42   ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2004-04-24 19:12     ` skaller
2004-04-24  8:56   ` Oliver Bandel
2004-04-23 20:09 Oliver Bandel
2004-04-23 20:09 Oliver Bandel
2004-04-23 20:10 Oliver Bandel
2004-04-23 20:10 Oliver Bandel
2004-04-24  7:30 ` Martin Jambon

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