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From: "Holger Weiß" <holger@cis.fu-berlin.de>
To: Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Purity and lazyness
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:16:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110107181648.GB16020852@CIS.FU-Berlin.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41A45D6B-C556-4D60-BA6F-423B60E3A137@univ-orleans.fr>

* David Rajchenbach-Teller <David.Teller@univ-orleans.fr> [2011-01-07 17:38]:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I wouldn't classify Erlang as "pure":
> sending and receiving messages -- which are two of the most important
> primitives in Erlang -- are definitely side-effects.
> Also, asynchronous error-checking, Mnesia, etc. look quite impure to me.

Indeed.  Erlang uses single assignment, but it doesn't enforce
referential transparency.

> I also vaguely remember Simon Peyton-Jones declaring something along the
> lines of "The next Haskell will be strict".

Not really:

| Any successor language [to Haskell] will have support for both strict and lazy
| functions.  So the question then is: what's the default, and how easy is it to
| get to these things?  How do you mix them together?  So it isn't kind of a
| completely either/or situation any more.  But on balance yes, I'm definitely
| very happy with using the lazy approach, as that's what made Haskell what it is
| and kept it pure.

[ http://www.techworld.com.au/article/261007/a-z_programming_languages_haskell/?pp=7 ]

Holger

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-07 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-07 15:35 Dario Teixeira
2011-01-07 16:07 ` Damien Doligez
2011-01-07 16:38   ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2011-01-07 18:16     ` Holger Weiß [this message]
2011-01-07 20:22     ` Eray Ozkural
2011-01-07 20:29       ` orbitz
2011-01-07 20:30         ` Joel Reymont
2011-01-07 20:33         ` Eray Ozkural
2011-01-08  9:44     ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2011-01-07 17:21 ` Alain Frisch
2011-01-07 17:46   ` Christophe Raffalli
2011-01-07 18:11 ` Holger Weiß
2011-01-07 18:52   ` Brian Hurt
2011-01-07 19:32     ` Petter Urkedal
2011-01-07 20:25     ` Eray Ozkural
2011-01-09 16:11     ` Jon Harrop
2011-01-10  6:27       ` Eray Ozkural
2011-01-07 19:17 ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTikxCSQ+0XkOmSVDb3EWq_2oQ0pac3bDgc7f7jq+@mail.gmail.com>
2011-01-07 20:52     ` bluestorm
2011-01-09 16:15       ` Jon Harrop
2011-01-08  0:26   ` Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva
2011-01-08  9:28     ` Christophe Raffalli
2011-01-08 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-09 10:00       ` Petter Urkedal

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