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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich@annexia.org>
To: David Allsopp <david@allsopps.net>
Cc: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>,
	"caml-list@inria.fr" <caml-list@inria.fr>,
	"sylvain@le-gall.net" <sylvain@le-gall.net>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] camlp4 & OCaml 4.08
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 11:52:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190629105248.aqc5fvdjfh6fccpj@annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12C0FD24-2DCD-4128-B020-84416F228E87@metastack.com>

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:17:02AM +0000, David Allsopp wrote:
> > On 29 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:06:15AM +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
> >>> On 27 Jun 2019, at 14:45, Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I know camlp4 is dead and all that, but we've got some software which
> >>> still uses it.  I will probably port it to camlp5 when I have the
> >>> time, but has anyone got the patch to make camlp4 work with 4.08?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To fork the thread slightly,  how big are the camlp4 dependencies remaining
> >> in your codebase, and is there anything we can do to help migrate?
> > 
> > The dependencies that I care about run through ocaml-gettext.  Gettext
> > is a specific method to make code internationalized and by its nature
> > it involves deep changes throughout our codebase, so porting away from
> > ocaml-gettext isn't an option any time soon.  However porting
> > ocaml-gettext to use something else might be.
> > 
> > ocaml-gettext has a tool which runs over the OCaml source code and
> > extracts the magic translatable strings, and it's my understanding
> > that this is the only reason it uses camlp4.  AIUI this cannot be done
> > using ppx's (maybe I'm wrong about that?) but could be done using
> > camlp5.  In fact it was me who did the original port of ocaml-gettext
> > from old camlp4 (ie. camlp5) to camlp4(!)
> 
> It’s not instantly clear to my (non-expert) eyes why this can’t be done with PPX. If I read the camlp4 script correctly, it doesn’t introduce any new syntax, it just matches on particular function calls and rewrites them?

Actually I believe it simply extracts the string parameters into a
separate file (from where they get translated).  However it's a
separate tool, it doesn't run as part of ordinary compilation.

Rich.

-- 
Richard Jones

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-29 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-27 13:45 Richard W.M. Jones
2019-06-27 17:28 ` Ian Zimmerman
2019-06-27 20:00   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-06-27 18:09 ` Jürgen Hötzel
2019-06-29  9:06 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2019-06-29  9:43   ` Richard W.M. Jones
     [not found]     ` <12C0FD24-2DCD-4128-B020-84416F228E87@metastack.com>
2019-06-29 10:52       ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2019-06-29 17:49         ` Sylvain Le Gall
2019-07-18 14:23           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-07-23  8:12             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-07-23 16:33               ` Sylvain Le Gall
2019-07-23 16:37                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-06-30  8:55         ` David Allsopp
2019-07-01 13:40           ` Jeremie Dimino
2019-07-02 14:30     ` Louis Gesbert
2019-06-29 15:15   ` Daniil Baturin
     [not found]     ` <5CE377AD-CB06-4261-BD26-A2A697253F02@uca.fr>
     [not found]       ` <393603fa-0efa-5714-82da-ba4bc3e869b8@baturin.org>
2019-07-05  9:55         ` [Caml-list] Lascar/RFSM & Camlp4 (was camlp4 & OCaml 4.08) Jocelyn Sérot
2019-07-24 15:10         ` [Caml-list] Camlp4-free implementation of stream parsers " Jocelyn Sérot
2019-07-24 15:31           ` Daniil Baturin

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