[Caml-list] posting policy

[Caml-list] posting policy

[Xavier Leroy]

Dear caml-list subscribers,

As you probably noticed, spam has been on the rise on the caml-list
since it was moved to INRIA's heavy-duty Sympa list server.  The
reason is that we lost one level of spam filtering during the move,
and my Sympa administrator informed me that there is nothing that can
be done about it except restrincting who can post to the list.

Based on the results of a quick poll at the OCaml meeting last Friday,
the caml-list is therefore now in "subscribers or confirmation" mode,
meaning that:

- if you post from an e-mail address that is subscribed to the list,
  the post goes through;
- otherwise, the poster receives an e-mail with a confirmation link
  that needs to be visited before the post goes through.

Of course, to avoid the inconvenience of confirming posts, you can
change your subscription so that it reflects the address you post
from, and/or subscribe multiple e-mail addresses to the list
and arrange so that only one receives messages.  All this can be done
from the Web interface:
  https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list

Regards,

- Xavier Leroy

RE: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Jon Harrop]

Thank you. For anyone who is interested, it is worth noting that this
sympa-roc.inria.fr site also has a nice archive of the caml-list that goes
all the way back to Claude Fleurey's e-mail about Caml on AIX from 30th
September 1992!

I've also noticed that Google Groups is no longer archiving fa.caml... :-(

Cheers,
Jon.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xavier Leroy [mailto:Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr]
> Sent: 17 April 2011 17:35
> To: caml-list
> Subject: [Caml-list] posting policy
> 
> Dear caml-list subscribers,
> 
> As you probably noticed, spam has been on the rise on the caml-list since
it was
> moved to INRIA's heavy-duty Sympa list server.  The reason is that we lost
one
> level of spam filtering during the move, and my Sympa administrator
informed
> me that there is nothing that can be done about it except restrincting who
can
> post to the list.
> 
> Based on the results of a quick poll at the OCaml meeting last Friday, the
caml-
> list is therefore now in "subscribers or confirmation" mode, meaning that:
> 
> - if you post from an e-mail address that is subscribed to the list,
>   the post goes through;
> - otherwise, the poster receives an e-mail with a confirmation link
>   that needs to be visited before the post goes through.
> 
> Of course, to avoid the inconvenience of confirming posts, you can change
your
> subscription so that it reflects the address you post from, and/or
subscribe
> multiple e-mail addresses to the list and arrange so that only one
receives
> messages.  All this can be done from the Web interface:
>   https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Xavier Leroy
> 
> --
> Caml-list mailing list.  Subscription management and archives:
> https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list
> Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners
> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs

Re: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Joel Reymont]

On Apr 17, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Jon Harrop wrote:

> I've also noticed that Google Groups is no longer archiving fa.caml... :-(

Are you talking about this?

"Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Apr 24)"

It's trivial to create a caml-list Google Group and subscribe it to this mailing list. It will be a read-only copy.

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RE: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Jon Harrop]

Joel wrote:
> I wrote:
> > I've also noticed that Google Groups is no longer archiving fa.caml...
:-(
> 
> Are you talking about this?

Yes.

> "Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This
> message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Apr 24)"
> 
> It's trivial to create a caml-list Google Group and subscribe it to this
mailing list.
> It will be a read-only copy.

Groups' fa.caml has archives dating back to 1998. Wouldn't starting new
groups fragment the archives?

Cheers,
Jon.

Re: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Paolo Donadeo]

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 21:41, Jon Harrop <jonathandeanharrop@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> I've also noticed that Google Groups is no longer archiving fa.caml... :-(
>

This behavior depends on the header "X-no-archive: yes" that the mailing
list software adds to each message.

Xavier, could you ask the administrator to remove that header? I consider
Google Groups very useful and I think I'm not alone and, furthermore, I
don't see evil side effects in having another (free) mirror of the mailing
list.


-- 
*Paolo ⠠⠵*

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RE: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Jon Harrop]

I just noticed the caml-list's own archive stopped at the end of last year:

http://caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/index.en.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Harrop [mailto:jonathandeanharrop@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 17 April 2011 20:41
> To: 'caml-list'
> Subject: RE: [Caml-list] posting policy
> 
> Thank you. For anyone who is interested, it is worth noting that this
sympa-
> roc.inria.fr site also has a nice archive of the caml-list that goes all
the way back
> to Claude Fleurey's e-mail about Caml on AIX from 30th September 1992!
> 
> I've also noticed that Google Groups is no longer archiving fa.caml... :-(
> 
> Cheers,
> Jon.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xavier Leroy [mailto:Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr]
> > Sent: 17 April 2011 17:35
> > To: caml-list
> > Subject: [Caml-list] posting policy
> >
> > Dear caml-list subscribers,
> >
> > As you probably noticed, spam has been on the rise on the caml-list
> > since
> it was
> > moved to INRIA's heavy-duty Sympa list server.  The reason is that we
> > lost
> one
> > level of spam filtering during the move, and my Sympa administrator
> informed
> > me that there is nothing that can be done about it except restrincting
> > who
> can
> > post to the list.
> >
> > Based on the results of a quick poll at the OCaml meeting last Friday,
> > the
> caml-
> > list is therefore now in "subscribers or confirmation" mode, meaning
that:
> >
> > - if you post from an e-mail address that is subscribed to the list,
> >   the post goes through;
> > - otherwise, the poster receives an e-mail with a confirmation link
> >   that needs to be visited before the post goes through.
> >
> > Of course, to avoid the inconvenience of confirming posts, you can
> > change
> your
> > subscription so that it reflects the address you post from, and/or
> subscribe
> > multiple e-mail addresses to the list and arrange so that only one
> receives
> > messages.  All this can be done from the Web interface:
> >   https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Xavier Leroy
> >
> > --
> > Caml-list mailing list.  Subscription management and archives:
> > https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list
> > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners
> > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs
> 
> 
> --
> Caml-list mailing list.  Subscription management and archives:
> https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list
> Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners
> Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs

Re: [Caml-list] posting policy

[Alan Schmitt]

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On 20 avr. 2011, at 20:05, Jon Harrop wrote:

> I just noticed the caml-list's own archive stopped at the end of last year:
> 
> http://caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/index.en.html


That's probably when they switched to the new archive:
https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/arc/caml-list?checked_cas=2
which goes back to september of 1992.

If you ever wondered about Caml Light and Atari ST, it's clearly the place to go ;-)

Alan

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