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* zero-arity constructor
@ 2010-11-26 21:46 Julia Lawall
  2010-11-26 21:51 ` [Caml-list] " Mehdi Dogguy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2010-11-26 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: caml-list

The following code compiles in 3.12.0 but doesn't compile in 3.10.2. Is it 
a bug or a feature?

type ty = A | B

let start x =
  match x with
    A _ -> ()
  | _ -> ()

julia


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* Re: [Caml-list] zero-arity constructor
  2010-11-26 21:46 zero-arity constructor Julia Lawall
@ 2010-11-26 21:51 ` Mehdi Dogguy
  2010-11-26 22:02   ` Julia Lawall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mehdi Dogguy @ 2010-11-26 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julia Lawall; +Cc: caml-list

On 11/26/2010 10:46 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> The following code compiles in 3.12.0 but doesn't compile in 3.10.2. 
> Is it a bug or a feature?
> 

It's a feature that was implemented in 3.11.0 (iirc).

See: http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4675 (and other related
bugreports).

Regards,

-- 
Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~dogguy
Tel.: (+33).1.44.27.28.38


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* Re: [Caml-list] zero-arity constructor
  2010-11-26 21:51 ` [Caml-list] " Mehdi Dogguy
@ 2010-11-26 22:02   ` Julia Lawall
  2010-11-26 22:32     ` bluestorm
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2010-11-26 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mehdi Dogguy; +Cc: caml-list

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:

> On 11/26/2010 10:46 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > The following code compiles in 3.12.0 but doesn't compile in 3.10.2. 
> > Is it a bug or a feature?
> > 
> 
> It's a feature that was implemented in 3.11.0 (iirc).
> 
> See: http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4675 (and other related
> bugreports).

OK, thanks.  I agree wth those that don't like the change...

julia


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* Re: [Caml-list] zero-arity constructor
  2010-11-26 22:02   ` Julia Lawall
@ 2010-11-26 22:32     ` bluestorm
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: bluestorm @ 2010-11-26 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julia Lawall; +Cc: Mehdi Dogguy, caml-list

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A quick summary for those like me that didn't follow the change and were
baffled to find out that "it's not a bug, it's a feature".

The change was asked for by Alain Frisch in 2006 (
http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4052 ) and finally added in ocaml
3.11. The rationale is to make it easy to mechanically -- think camlp4 or
another preprocessor -- generate pattern clauses to test for the head
constructor of a data type, ignoring it's parameter.
Before that change, (K _) would work for all constructors K of arity greater
than 1, but not for arity 0. After the change, (K _) work even for constant
constructors. Generating a match clause that says "looks if it's the
constructor K, I don't care about the arguments" is much easier as you don't
have to carry  arity information around.

The downside of this behaviour is that the universal pattern _ has an
different meaning in this setting. It does not only matches any value (as
the manual says : http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml/patterns.html ),
but also "matches any number of arguments, possibly 0". The nice
compositional interpretation of patterns -- K (p1, .., pN) matches a value
with constructor K and whose N arguments match p1..pN -- is lost.
Note that this was already the case before the change suggested by Alain
Frisch : _ would work for two-arguments constructors as well, while a named
variable wouldn't -- this is well-known subtle difference between (Foo of a
* b) and (Foo of (a * b)). The pattern _ ignored any non-zero number of
arguments.

Note that since ocaml 3.12, there is a warning available for this very
error.

$ ocaml -warn-help
[...]
 28 Wildcard pattern given as argument to a constant constructor.
[...]

$ cat test.ml
type ty = A | B

let test = function
| A _ -> ()
| B -> ()

$ ocaml -w +28 test.ml
File "test.ml", line 4, characters 4-5:
Warning 28: wildcard pattern given as argument to a constant constructor

I think than, in the end, it's all a matter of compromise.

Thanks to Julia and Mehdi for casting light on the dark corners of the ocaml
syntax!


PS : I haven't found that behaviour documented anywhere. Maybe it would be
good to describe that special behaviour of _ on constructors in the manual?

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk> wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
>
> > On 11/26/2010 10:46 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > The following code compiles in 3.12.0 but doesn't compile in 3.10.2.
> > > Is it a bug or a feature?
> > >
> >
> > It's a feature that was implemented in 3.11.0 (iirc).
> >
> > See: http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4675 (and other related
> > bugreports).
>
> OK, thanks.  I agree wth those that don't like the change...
>
> julia
>
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