From: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com>
To: Alex Hoffnung <alexhoffnung@gmail.com>, categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Dangerous knowledge
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:30:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NFdUU-00024U-Mx@mailserv.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NFS0e-0004Ds-Fr@mailserv.mta.ca>
Hi,
A while ago, I started to watch a BBC programme on a mathematical
Olympiad camp, but gave up when it was clear that they were concentrating
on a participant with peculiar behaviour and hardly noticed the several
pretty girls around! That also sounds like peculiar behaviour.
Perhaps we need a TV programme about producers of TV programmes?
Ronnie Brown
Alex Hoffnung wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I think I watched this documentary a while ago. I watched only a few
> minutes of it today and then realized that I should probably be doing
> something else. However, I was interested and want to comment briefly.
>
>
>
>> In this one-off documentary, David Malone looks at four brilliant
>> mathematicians - Georg Cantor, Ludwig Boltzmann, Kurt Gödel and Alan
>> Turing - whose genius has profoundly affected us, but which tragically
>> drove them insane and eventually led to them all committing suicide.
>>
>>
>
> I am not sure what it means for one's genius to drive him or her insane.
> >From what I can gather in this summary and my recollection of the film, the
> director seems to exploit the illnesses of some of these men to provide some
> theatrical drama to the story. If this is so, then it seems rather
> irresponsible. If I am mistaken and have not watched enough of the video,
> then my apologies to the director.
>
>
>
>> The film begins with Georg Cantor, the great mathematician whose work
>> proved to be the foundation for much of the 20th-century mathematics.
>> He believed he was God's messenger and was eventually driven insane
>> trying to prove his theories of infinity.
>>
>>
>
> This statement does not directly blame the illness on his struggle with
> mathematics, but it seems dangerously suggestive of this conclusion. Here
> is a quote from Wikipedia:
>
> Cantor's recurring bouts of
> depression<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression>from 1884
> to the end of his life were once blamed on the hostile attitude of
> many of his contemporaries,[9]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor#cite_note-daub280-8>but
> these episodes can now be seen as probable manifestations of a bipolar
> disorder <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder>.[10]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor#cite_note-bipolar-9>
>
> This seems like the more reasonable, albeit possibly less glamorous
> description of the causes of Cantor's illnesses. Since I did not watch
> further I cannot comment on the others, except that I did not know of any
> mental disorders associated to Turing.
>
> Best,
> Alex Hoffnung
>
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-29 23:31 Joyal, André
2009-11-30 16:51 ` Mike Stay
2009-11-30 23:37 ` Dana Scott
[not found] ` <B3C24EA955FF0C4EA14658997CD3E25E2159B5F8@CAHIER.gst.uqam.ca>
2009-12-02 4:03 ` Dangerous times Joyal, André
2009-12-01 1:40 ` Dangerous knowledge Alex Hoffnung
2009-12-01 14:26 ` jim stasheff
2009-12-01 14:30 ` Ronnie Brown [this message]
2009-12-01 2:32 ` jim stasheff
2009-12-01 15:13 ` Alex Hoffnung
2009-12-01 16:43 ` Robert Seely
2009-12-02 2:25 ` RE : categories: " Joyal, André
2009-12-02 17:27 ` Ronnie Brown
2009-12-01 3:59 ` Dangerous ignorance Joyal, André
2009-12-01 13:56 ` Dangerous knowledge Charles Wells
2009-12-02 2:16 ` John Baez
2009-12-06 18:46 ` Vaughan Pratt
2009-12-07 2:46 ` Joyal, André
2009-12-07 13:46 ` jim stasheff
2009-12-08 19:15 ` Vaughan Pratt
2009-12-07 14:13 ` A well kept secret Joyal, André
2009-12-08 17:31 ` Steve Vickers
2009-12-09 14:18 ` Charles Wells
2009-12-10 14:49 ` Paul Taylor
2009-12-11 1:44 ` Michael Barr
2009-12-12 0:13 ` jim stasheff
2009-12-13 3:17 ` Wojtowicz, Ralph
2009-12-13 7:01 ` Vaughan Pratt
2009-12-11 1:46 ` Tom Leinster
2009-12-11 6:51 ` Michael Fourman
2009-12-11 8:36 ` Greg Meredith
2009-12-12 19:00 ` Zinovy Diskin
[not found] ` <e3ef1bd7ee7e9e1e1ecdb201955e18f6@PaulTaylor.EU>
2009-12-10 15:51 ` RE : " Joyal, André
2009-12-13 3:30 ` Zinovy Diskin
2009-12-07 17:18 ` Dangerous knowledge Steve Vickers
2009-12-08 4:09 ` A well kept secret David Spivak
2009-12-12 15:57 ` jim stasheff
2009-12-08 5:23 ` Robert Seely
2009-12-09 16:12 ` Mehrnoosh Sadrzadeh
[not found] ` <7b998a320912090812x60551840r641fe9feb75efaee@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-09 17:02 ` Robert Seely
2009-12-10 18:03 ` Dangerous_knowledge Joyal, André
2009-12-01 0:29 Dangerous knowledge Mike Stay
2009-12-03 14:58 jim stasheff
2009-12-03 23:56 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
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