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From: "Joyal, André" <joyal.andre@uqam.ca>
To: "Ronnie Brown" <ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com>,
	<categories@mta.ca>,
	       "George Janelidze" <janelg@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:35:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Qf9jy-0003mh-1o@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1QeyJp-000274-45@mlist.mta.ca>

Dear Ronnie and Georges,

I had a quick glimpse on the wikipedia timeline of category theory.
It can be criticised on many aspects, for example, for its inaccuracies.
But it has also a good side.
It shows for example that a lot of category theory has been developed
by mathmaticians who are not formally category theorists.

I suggest you propose an alternative timeline to the categorical community
before the destruction of this one. 
An imperfect timeline is better than none.

Best, 
André




-------- Message d'origine--------
De: Ronnie Brown [mailto:ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com]
Date: jeu. 07/07/2011 09:14
À: categories@mta.ca; George Janelidze
Objet : categories: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory
 
We would like to draw the attention of readers of this list to the article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_category_theory_and_related_mathematics


We feel that this entry is slanted, unbalanced, and in many cases wrong.
It gives credit to work at a given time often presented in the form of
vague ambitious titles or conclusions that give no information on the
actual theorems the authors either claimed or published at the time.  It
fails to give credit to many authors for their contribution to the
development of category theory and its wider applications, and fails to
describe many developments in the area.

It also fails to give references, which is usually a requirement for
wikipedia articles, and the `discussion' makes it clear that the
author(s) of this entry have no intention of so doing, and have not done
so since the entry was made in 2009.

The anonymity of the entry is also a handicap.

One of us has tried to make a correction, but this is using a sticking
plaster on too great a problem. The entry fails to come up to the
standards of wikipedia in scholarship, accuracy and presentation, is not
really possible to correct,  and should therefore be removed.

We would be grateful for comments on this matter, and for agreement to
support this proposal to wikipedia.

Ronnie Brown

George Janelidze


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-08  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-07 13:14 Ronnie Brown
2011-07-08  1:35 ` Joyal, André [this message]
2011-07-08  7:33 ` Andree Ehresmann
2011-07-08 11:53 ` Sergei SOLOVIEV
2011-07-08 12:57   ` Robert Dawson
2011-07-08 13:43 ` Valeria de Paiva
2011-07-09  2:52 ` Peter Selinger
2011-07-09 14:37   ` Toby Bartels
2011-07-09 19:48   ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2011-07-08  0:07 Fred E.J. Linton
2011-07-08 22:46 ` Messing
2011-07-10 17:03 Timelines for category theory: a response to comments Ronnie Brown
2011-07-11 15:58 ` jim stasheff
2011-07-11 18:11 ` Robert Dawson
2011-07-11 18:14 ` Sergei SOLOVIEV
2011-07-11 21:18 ` David Roberts
2011-07-12 16:13   ` Graham White
2011-07-13  0:33     ` Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory peasthope
2011-07-13  7:43     ` Re: Timelines for category theory: a response to comments Patrik Eklund
2011-07-12 14:10 ` Jeremy Gibbons

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