From: "Fred E.J. Linton" <fejlinton@usa.net>
To: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com>,
"categories@mta.ca" <categories@mta.ca>,
George Janelidze <janelg@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:07:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Qf9hl-0003ky-3w@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
George, Ronnie, et al.,
I think you are engaged in a valiant, but losing, battle.
Tellingly, just today, in my postal mail, I found a copy of
the latest issue of The New Yorker, with its mini-biography
of Jaron Lanier, and his reported lamentation of Wikipedia
as "a triumph of 'intellectual mob rule'".
(See "Issue of July 11 & 18, 2011", pp. 46-53, esp. p. 46.)
I hold out no hope of seeing much improvement in the parts
of Wikipedia that need improving, and I (for one) have now
given up trying.
Far be it from me to try to dissuade you, though. So:
Cheers, and best of luck in any event, -- Fred
------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:51:00 PM EDT
From: Ronnie Brown <ronnie.profbrown@btinternet.com>
To: "categories@mta.ca" <categories@mta.ca>, George Janelidze
<janelg@telkomsa.net>
Subject: categories: Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category
theory
> We would like to draw the attention of readers of this list to the article
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_category_theory_and_related_mathematics
>
>
> We feel that this entry is slanted, unbalanced, and in many cases wrong.
> It gives credit to work at a given time often presented in the form of
> vague ambitious titles or conclusions that give no information on the
> actual theorems the authors either claimed or published at the time. It
> fails to give credit to many authors for their contribution to the
> development of category theory and its wider applications, and fails to
> describe many developments in the area.
>
> It also fails to give references, which is usually a requirement for
> wikipedia articles, and the `discussion' makes it clear that the
> author(s) of this entry have no intention of so doing, and have not done
> so since the entry was made in 2009.
>
> The anonymity of the entry is also a handicap.
>
> One of us has tried to make a correction, but this is using a sticking
> plaster on too great a problem. The entry fails to come up to the
> standards of wikipedia in scholarship, accuracy and presentation, is not
> really possible to correct, and should therefore be removed.
>
> We would be grateful for comments on this matter, and for agreement to
> support this proposal to wikipedia.
>
> Ronnie Brown
>
> George Janelidze
>
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next reply other threads:[~2011-07-08 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-08 0:07 Fred E.J. Linton [this message]
2011-07-08 22:46 ` Messing
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-07 13:14 Ronnie Brown
2011-07-08 1:35 ` Joyal, André
2011-07-08 7:33 ` Andree Ehresmann
2011-07-08 11:53 ` Sergei SOLOVIEV
2011-07-08 12:57 ` Robert Dawson
2011-07-08 13:43 ` Valeria de Paiva
2011-07-09 2:52 ` Peter Selinger
2011-07-09 14:37 ` Toby Bartels
2011-07-09 19:48 ` Eduardo J. Dubuc
2011-07-12 16:13 ` Timelines for category theory: a response to comments Graham White
2011-07-13 0:33 ` Comments on a wikipedia article on a Timeline of Category theory peasthope
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