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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
@ 2011-08-26 19:28 Todd Trimble
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From: Todd Trimble @ 2011-08-26 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear All,

I had posted the message below yesterday, but the message had
some html in it (from previous messages in the exchange, I believe).
It is somewhat redundant today because Professor Porst's paper
has now been mentioned in a different posting, but it can still serve
as a note of appreciation to him. :-)

Best regards,

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Trimble
To: Hans-E. Porst
Cc: Bisson, Terrence P ; Categories list
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: categories: Re: a coalgebras over fields question.


Indeed, Hans-E. Porst has done a lot of valuable work in the area
of coalgebras and comodules. I would also recommend his article
"On corings and comodules", Archivum Mathematicum 42 (2006),
no. 4, 419-425.

Todd


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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
  2011-08-24  4:58 Bisson, Terrence P
  2011-08-24 16:46 ` Todd Trimble
  2011-08-27 15:28 ` Donovan Van Osdol
@ 2011-08-28 12:03 ` pare
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From: pare @ 2011-08-28 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bisson, Terrence P; +Cc: categories

Hi Terry (and others),

You might have a look at my paper with Grunenfelder "Families Parametrized
by Coalgebras", J. Alg. 107 (1987), 316-375, which gives a different
perspective on the topic.

Bob

> Hi,  I have heard that naive questions are allowed at the cat list, so
> here  goes:
>
> The diagonal map in spaces often gives a co-commutative diagonal map in
> homology,
> so I want to understand the special properties of the category of
> co-commutative coalgebras.
>
> It seems to be a "well-known fact" that
>   the category of co-commutative coalgebras over a field is a cartesian
> closed category,
> but I can't seem to find much discussion of the internal hom.
> Can you suggest any reference?
>
> Thanks, Terry Bisson
>

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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
  2011-08-24  4:58 Bisson, Terrence P
  2011-08-24 16:46 ` Todd Trimble
@ 2011-08-27 15:28 ` Donovan Van Osdol
  2011-08-28 12:03 ` pare
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From: Donovan Van Osdol @ 2011-08-27 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bisson, Terrence P; +Cc: categories

Dear Terry,
     Since the impetus for your question seems to come from
algebraic topology, you might find two papers (each about
forty years old!) of at least passing interest:

"Coalgebras, Sheaves, and Cohomology":
http://www.ams.org/journals/proc/1972-033-02/S0002-9939-1972-0294447-7/S0002-9939-1972-0294447-7.pdf,  and

"Bicohomology Theory":
http://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1973-183-00/S0002-9947-1973-0323873-8/S0002-9947-1973-0323873-8.pdf

With best regards,
Don


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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
  2011-08-24 16:46 ` Todd Trimble
  2011-08-26  1:57   ` Terry Bisson
@ 2011-08-27  8:12   ` Hans-E. Porst
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From: Hans-E. Porst @ 2011-08-27  8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Categories list

Those interested in similar results might also look at my recent paper

On subcategories of the category of Hopf algebras, Arabian Journal of Science and Enginering, (2011), DOI 10.1007/s13369-011-0090-4

and the references therein.

A preprint of which as available at

http://www.math.uni-bremen.de/~porst/dvis/PORST_Hopf_fin.pdf 


Regards,
Hans


Am 24.08.2011 um 18:46 schrieb Todd Trimble:

> Dear Terry,
> 
> The category of cocommutative coalgebras over a field k has a
> lot of nice properties: it is not only cartesian closed, it is also
> extensive and locally finitely presentable (hence also complete
> and cocomplete, and even total).
> 
> If you want a quick proof of cartesian closure based on the
> adjoint functor theorem, try this paper by Michael Barr:
> 
> ftp://ftp.math.mcgill.ca/pub/barr/coalgebra.pdf
> 
> which gives a proof that applies more generally to coalgebras
> over a general commutative ring.
> 
> One absolutely crucial fact in this whole business is sometimes
> called the fundamental theorem for (cocommutative) coalgebras:
> each is the filtered colimit of its finite-dimensional subcoalgebras.
> (Here we are working over a field k. The situation is more subtle
> over a general commutative ring R.) The finite-dim cocommutative
> coalgebras over k coincide with the finitely presentable objects in
> CocommCoalg_k, and the category of finite-dim cocommutative
> coalgebras is dual to the category of finite-dim commutative
> algebras/k. One concludes (a la Gabriel-Ulmer duality) that there
> is an equivalence
> 
> CocommCoalg ~ Lex(CommAlg_{fd}, Set),
> 
> where the right side is the category of left exact functors on the
> category of finite-dim commutative algebras/k.
> 
>> From there, one can derive how exponentials should work: if
> C and D are cocommutative coalgebras, then their exponential
> D^C is the coalgebra which represents the left exact functor
> which takes a finite-dim algebra A to the set of coalgebra
> homomorphisms
> 
> A* \otimes_k C --> D
> 
> (NB: if C and C' are cocommutative coalgebras over k, then
> C' \otimes_k C  is their cartesian product in CocommCoalg.)
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Todd Trimble
> 

-- 
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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
  2011-08-24 16:46 ` Todd Trimble
@ 2011-08-26  1:57   ` Terry Bisson
  2011-08-27  8:12   ` Hans-E. Porst
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From: Terry Bisson @ 2011-08-26  1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: categories

Todd Trimble <trimble1 <at> optonline.net> writes:

  >The finite-dim cocommutative
> coalgebras over k coincide with the finitely presentable objects in
> CocommCoalg_k, and the category of finite-dim cocommutative
> coalgebras is dual to the category of finite-dim commutative
> algebras/k. One concludes (a la Gabriel-Ulmer duality) that there
> is an equivalence
> 
> CocommCoalg ~ Lex(CommAlg_{fd}, Set),
> 
> where the right side is the category of left exact functors on the
> category of finite-dim commutative algebras/k.


  Hans-E. Porst <porst@math.uni-bremen.de>   pointed me to 
similar results in his recent paper
"On subcategories of the category of Hopf algebras",  Arabian
Journal of Science and Enginering, (2011), DOI 10.1007/s13369-011-0090-4 

Others recommended his article  "On corings and comodules", 
Archivum Mathematicum 42 (2006), no. 4, 419-425. 

Preprints of these are available at
http://www.math.uni-bremen.de/~porst/

I am finding these comments very helpful.  Thanks greatly, Terry Bisson


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* Re: a coalgebras over fields question.
  2011-08-24  4:58 Bisson, Terrence P
@ 2011-08-24 16:46 ` Todd Trimble
  2011-08-26  1:57   ` Terry Bisson
  2011-08-27  8:12   ` Hans-E. Porst
  2011-08-27 15:28 ` Donovan Van Osdol
  2011-08-28 12:03 ` pare
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Todd Trimble @ 2011-08-24 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bisson, Terrence P; +Cc: Categories list

Dear Terry,

The category of cocommutative coalgebras over a field k has a
lot of nice properties: it is not only cartesian closed, it is also
extensive and locally finitely presentable (hence also complete
and cocomplete, and even total).

If you want a quick proof of cartesian closure based on the
adjoint functor theorem, try this paper by Michael Barr:

ftp://ftp.math.mcgill.ca/pub/barr/coalgebra.pdf

which gives a proof that applies more generally to coalgebras
over a general commutative ring.

One absolutely crucial fact in this whole business is sometimes
called the fundamental theorem for (cocommutative) coalgebras:
each is the filtered colimit of its finite-dimensional subcoalgebras.
(Here we are working over a field k. The situation is more subtle
over a general commutative ring R.) The finite-dim cocommutative
coalgebras over k coincide with the finitely presentable objects in
CocommCoalg_k, and the category of finite-dim cocommutative
coalgebras is dual to the category of finite-dim commutative
algebras/k. One concludes (a la Gabriel-Ulmer duality) that there
is an equivalence

CocommCoalg ~ Lex(CommAlg_{fd}, Set),

where the right side is the category of left exact functors on the
category of finite-dim commutative algebras/k.

From there, one can derive how exponentials should work: if
C and D are cocommutative coalgebras, then their exponential
D^C is the coalgebra which represents the left exact functor
which takes a finite-dim algebra A to the set of coalgebra
homomorphisms

A* \otimes_k C --> D

(NB: if C and C' are cocommutative coalgebras over k, then
C' \otimes_k C  is their cartesian product in CocommCoalg.)

Best regards,

Todd Trimble

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bisson, Terrence P" <bisson@canisius.edu>
To: <categories@mta.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:58 AM
Subject: categories: a coalgebras over fields question.


> Hi,  I have heard that naive questions are allowed at the cat list, so
> here  goes:
>
> The diagonal map in spaces often gives a co-commutative diagonal map in
> homology,
> so I want to understand the special properties of the category of
> co-commutative coalgebras.
>
> It seems to be a "well-known fact" that
>  the category of co-commutative coalgebras over a field is a cartesian
> closed category,
> but I can't seem to find much discussion of the internal hom.
> Can you suggest any reference?
>
> Thanks, Terry Bisson
>



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* a coalgebras over fields question.
@ 2011-08-24  4:58 Bisson, Terrence P
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From: Bisson, Terrence P @ 2011-08-24  4:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,  I have heard that naive questions are allowed at the cat list, so here  goes:
   
The diagonal map in spaces often gives a co-commutative diagonal map in homology,
so I want to understand the special properties of the category of co-commutative coalgebras.

It seems to be a "well-known fact" that 
  the category of co-commutative coalgebras over a field is a cartesian closed category,
but I can't seem to find much discussion of the internal hom.  
Can you suggest any reference?   

Thanks, Terry Bisson



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