Re: Some information on the "Cahiers"

Re: Some information on the "Cahiers"

[Fred E.J. Linton]

Should I be amused or aghast that Mathematics is being dealt with by 
a Thomson Reuters editor for "Physical, Chemical & Earth Sciences"?

Cheers, -- Fred

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Received: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:48:30 AM EDT
From: Andree Ehresmann <andree.ehresmann@u-picardie.fr>

>  ... 
> I would like to communicate some information on the "Cahiers".
> 
> 1. Last year, prompted by several people, in particular Ronnie, I had  
> asked for the inclusion of the "Cahiers" in the ISI database, and I  
> was informed that the assessment process required about 1 year. The  
> answer arrived in August: it is rejected ... I asked for the reasons. I   
> join the answer at the end of this msg. ...
> 
>    Date:  	Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:53:48 +0000 [23.08.2011 21:53 CEST]
> De:  	rodney.chonka@thomsonreuters.comAjouter  
> rodney.chonka@thomsonreuters.com à mon carnet d'adresses États-Unis
> À:  	andree.ehresmann@u-picardie.frAjouter  
> andree.ehresmann@u-picardie.fr à mon carnet d'adresses
> Sujet:  	RE: Cahiers de Topologie et Geometrie Differentielle Categoriques
> 
> 
> Dear Prof. Ehresmann,
> 
> Among the many criteria we use ...
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Rodney Chonka
> Editor, Physical, Chemical & Earth Sciences
> Thomson  Reuters



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Some information on the "Cahiers"

[Andree Ehresmann]

Dear All,

I would like to communicate some information on the "Cahiers".

1. Last year, prompted by several people, in particular Ronnie, I had  
asked for the inclusion of the "Cahiers" in the ISI database, and I  
was informed that the assessment process required about 1 year. The  
answer arrived in August: it is rejected. As I was surprised, all the  
more since I thought TAC had been accepted, I asked for the reasons. I  
join the answer at the end of this msg.

2. The "Cahiers" show that a journal need not be very expensive. It  
costs 82 euros a year, and lives on its subscriptions (almost all by  
foreign universities) which entirely and exactly cover the expenses:  
printing of the final pdf file which I give to the (commercial)  
printer, envelopes and stamps I use for snail mail delivery.
It should be noted that there is no staff expenses since, without any  
financial nor material support, I myself edit the complete file (with  
the help of the authors who kindly comply with my format  
requirements?), and manage the subscriptions, the packing up and  
sending of the volumes.

I am sorry of the ThomasReuters decision  which might be a prejudice  
for the authors, I'll try to have it reversed in the future if it is  
possible, and I hope you all will help me.

Kind regards
Andree

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   Date:  	Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:53:48 +0000 [23.08.2011 21:53 CEST]
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Sujet:  	RE: Cahiers de Topologie et Geometrie Differentielle Categoriques


Dear Prof. Ehresmann,

Among the many criteria we use to evaluate a journal for possible  
inclusion in the database, a journal's citation record (how often the  
journal is cited and which journals cite it and are cited by it) is  
one of the more important considerations.  We examined the citation  
record of the Cahiers for both 2009 and 2010. (The 2010 citation data  
became available just a few months ago).  The citation data for both  
years show that the citation rate for the Cahiers was very low - even  
lower in 2010 than in 2009 - and did not compare favorably with other  
core mathematics journals indexed in the database, in particular,  
journals covering the subject areas of topology and category.

Theory and Applications of Categories was indeed added to the database  
earlier this year and during its evaluation demonstrated a much  
stronger citation rate.  Many high impact journals covering the field  
of topology, such as Topology and Its Applications, Topology and  
Topological Methods in Nonlinear Analysis, are also indexed in the  
database. Thus, these fields in mathematics are well represented in  
the database.

We would be pleased to arrange a reevaluation of the journal in 36  
months, if you care to contact us again at that time.  (In the  
meantime, it is not necessary to send us further issues.)  Further  
exposure to the research community, new quantitative data and our  
evolving coverage priorities may yield a different decision.

Sincerely,

Rodney Chonka
Editor, Physical, Chemical & Earth Sciences
Thomson  Reuters




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