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From: "Oosten, J. van" <j.vanoosten@uu.nl>
To: Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu>
Cc: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: functors defined by well-founded induction
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:40:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1X5b2s-0004k2-Rp@mlist.mta.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1X5DAU-0006rm-Gf@mlist.mta.ca>

Dear Mike,

is the following too simple-minded?

Given a well-founded poset (X,<), a category C and a function F which,
to every functor G from an initial segment of X to C, assigns a cocone
for G.
Then there is a unique functor H:X-->C with the property that for every
x\in X, H(x) is the vertex of the cocone which is F applied to the
restriction of H to {y|y<x}.

Jaap van Oosten

On 7/9/14, 7:39 PM, Michael Shulman wrote:
> Actually, my question is much more basic.
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Paul Taylor <cats@paultaylor.eu> wrote:
>> The simple answer is that the recursion has to define the functor,
>> ie the morphisms corresponding to instances of the order relation,
>> and not just the values at individual ordinals, in order to make sense
>> of defining the values at limit ordinals as colimits.
> That's exactly what I said:
>
>>> since we have to define the value of the functor on morphisms too,
>>> and its value at a given object may depend on its value at morphisms
>>> between previous objects.
> All I'm looking for is a general theorem of the form "given a
> well-founded relation < on a set X, and a category C, and
> such-and-such data, there is an induced functor X -> C."  I don't care
> about set-theoretic issues right now, I'm just looking for a place
> where someone has written out exactly how to construct such a functor
> using the well-foundedness of <.  It seems like it should be a
> well-known thing, so that I can just cite it rather than having to
> write out my own proof.
>
> Mike
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-10 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <e7a7f6a0218b48329967ebf0349ac528@CHEWY.ad.sandiego.edu>
2014-07-09 17:39 ` Michael Shulman
2014-07-10 12:40   ` Oosten, J. van [this message]
2014-07-30 12:37     ` Tadeusz Litak
     [not found] ` <40aa4cd3ea004811957c877001b40f5e@LANDO.ad.sandiego.edu>
2014-07-30 22:43   ` Michael Shulman
2014-07-09  9:39 Paul Taylor
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2014-07-08  3:11 Michael Shulman

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