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From: lm at mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: [COFF] Other OSes?
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:06:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180706000659.GD18361@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180705231205.14944156E400@mail.bitblocks.com>

On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 04:11:57PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:49:58 -0700 "Steve Johnson" <scj at yaccman.com> wrote:
> > That's an interesting topic, but it also gets my mind thinking about UNIX
> > features that were wonderful but didn't evolve as computers did.
> > 
> > My two examples of this are editor scripts and shell scripts. In the day, I
> > would write at least one shell script and several editor scripts a day.  Most
> > of them were 2-4 lines long and used once.  But they allowed operations to be
> > done on multiple files quite quickly and safely.
> > 
> > With the advent of glass teletypes, shell scripts simply evaporated -- there
> > was no equivalent.  (yes, there were programs like sed, but it wasn't the
> > same...).  Changing, e.g., a function name oin 10 files got a lot more tedious.
> > 
> > With the advent of drag and drop and visual interfaces, shell scripts
> > evaporated as well.  Once again, doing something on 10 files got harder than
> > before.  I still use a lot of shell scripts, but mostly don't write them from
> > scratch any more.
> 
> With specialized apps there is less need for the kind of
> things we used to do.  While some of us want lego technic,
> most people simply want preconstructed toys to play with.

Years and years ago, decades ago, I worked on a time series picker that
had a pretty cool interface.  Yeah, it was a GUI tool with all the menus,
etc, but it also had a console prompt because all the menus had keyboard
shortcuts.  What was neat about it was that as you pulled down menus and
did stuff, which was a process where you'd go through several things to
get what you want, the console would fill in with the shortcuts.

So if you hadn't used it for a while, using it basically taught you the
shortcuts.  It was pretty slick, I wish all guis worked like that.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-06  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-05  5:56 wkt
2018-07-05  6:29 ` spedraja
2018-07-05  6:40 ` bakul
2018-07-05 15:23   ` clemc
2018-07-05 20:49     ` scj
2018-07-05 21:25       ` david
2018-07-06 15:42         ` gtaylor
2018-07-05 22:38       ` ralph
2018-07-05 23:11       ` bakul
2018-07-06  0:06         ` lm [this message]
2018-07-06 15:49           ` gtaylor
2018-07-06  0:52       ` tytso
2018-07-06  5:59         ` ralph
2018-07-06 15:59           ` gtaylor
2018-07-06 16:10             ` ralph
2018-07-06 16:47               ` gtaylor
2018-07-06 15:57         ` gtaylor
2018-07-06 15:38       ` gtaylor
2018-07-09  1:56         ` tytso
2018-07-09  3:25           ` gtaylor
2018-07-09  3:35             ` crossd
2018-07-09  3:43               ` gtaylor
2018-07-09  3:52                 ` imp
2018-07-09 11:32                   ` perry
2018-07-09 11:50                     ` perry
2018-07-09 11:34                 ` crossd
2018-07-09  5:23             ` tytso
2018-07-09 12:52               ` clemc
2018-07-09 13:06                 ` [COFF] PiDP Obsolesces Guaranteed clemc
2018-07-09 14:39                 ` [COFF] Other OSes? tytso
2018-07-09 14:46                   ` clemc
2018-07-09 11:24           ` perry
2018-07-05 22:51   ` ewayte
2018-07-08 20:31   ` perry
2018-07-08 20:53     ` perry
2018-07-09  2:44     ` crossd
2018-07-10  5:30       ` bakul
2018-07-16 14:49         ` crossd
2018-07-16 16:59           ` [COFF] Capabilities (was " bakul
2018-07-06  0:55 ` [COFF] " crossd
2018-07-06  5:42   ` bakul
2018-07-09  2:51     ` crossd
2018-07-10  5:41       ` bakul
2018-07-06  4:04 ` grog
2018-07-06 16:10   ` gtaylor
2018-07-06 18:27     ` [COFF] Editor Scripts scj
2018-07-06 19:04       ` gtaylor
2018-07-08 20:50 ` [COFF] Other OSes? perry
2018-07-08 23:27   ` bakul
2018-07-09  0:00     ` grog
2018-07-09  0:13       ` perry
2018-07-09  0:05     ` crossd
2018-07-09  0:56       ` lm
2018-07-09  2:23         ` crossd
2018-07-09  0:11     ` perry
2018-07-09  0:19       ` crossd
2018-07-09  2:00         ` bakul
2018-07-09  3:02           ` [COFF] Origination of awful security design [COFF, COFF] bill
2018-07-09 13:10           ` [COFF] Other OSes? david
2018-07-09 13:17           ` perry
2018-07-09 13:13         ` perry

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