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From: Tomasz Rola <>
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Subject: [COFF] Re: Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep.)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:26:53 +0200	[thread overview]
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On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:02:33AM -0500, Michael Parson wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2023, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 04:15:33
> > From: Ralph Corderoy <>
> > To:
> > Subject: [COFF] Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on
> >     extended regular expressions in grep.)
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Grant wrote:
> > > Even inventorying and keeping track of the books can be time
> > > consuming. -- Thankfully I took some time to do exactly that and have
> > > access to that information on the super computer in my pocket.
> > 
> > I seek recommendations for an Android app to comfortably read PDFs on
> > a mobile phone's screen.  They were intended to be printed as a book.
> > In particular, once I've zoomed and panned to get the interesting part
> > of a page as large as possible, swiping between pages should persist
> > that view.  An extra point for allowing odd and even pages to use
> > different panning.
> Sorry for responding to an old thread got behind on my list-mail
> reading, but I wanted to share my $.02.
> Someone else mentioned an e-book reader app, and I second that,
> mostly...Moon+ Reader on Android is the e-book reader I've been using
> for a while and it does a good job with standard e-book formats
> as well as PDF files, IF the PDF is a PDF of formatted text.  It
> even has a mode where it will do a pretty decent job of on-the-fly
> converting/reformatting the text of the PDF to something that can
> actually be read on a small (phone) screen.  However, if the PDF is just
> a bunch of 1 image per page wrapped in a PDF container, you're out of
> luck and back to zoom/pan around the page.
> For most of my digtal book reading these days, I use a Boox e-ink
> reader.  It runs Android, so, I can use the same e-book reader I used
> on my phone.  It can even sync where you're at in the book/document via
> dropbox and you can move between multiple devices if needed.
> If I want to mark-up the PDF, the built-in stuff on the Boox handles
> that nicely.  If I'm on my phone, I use an app called Xodo.
> -- 
> Michael Parson
> Pflugerville, TX

Hello Michael,

I am not challenging your choices (to each his/her own), but to add
some alternative, my own preferences go toward:

a. have sd card slot in a reader (I mean hardware with e-ink, not some
app on a phone). This means a card can be slipped into the box without
opening it. This means the box is not water-proof. However, I had a
look inside and I suspect it can still be water-prooved with duct
tape, if someone wants it so much.

b. so far I was rather happy with Linux custom made by manufacturer,
but not an Android - I am yet to try Android based ebook reader (but
maybe not too fast). Phones with A* are rather lousy at keeping their
batteries loaded, I wonder how eink devices fare - do they, too, need
to be recharged every day? My reader is recharged every 2-3 weeks,
when batt drops to about 70%, while I keep using it at least every
second day for few hours at a time.

I had once (many years go, when I was to buy my first reader) a dream
of browsing web pages with it. However, built in browser in non-A*
reader proved to be lousy, equally lousy to browser in A* phones that
I have tried. So, my current ereader was never connected to the net
because I see no point. Of course each model nowadays comes with
wi-fi, it just does not add anything useful so no need to even
configure it on home router etc. Nowadays, I would rather convert
whatever to pdf or epub and upload to the reader. Reading wikipedia
pages printed to pdf saved me plenty of grief, as opposed to trying
them in a (builtin) browser. I suspect elinks could look much better,
but trying this requires some free time (compiling/porting,

As a side note, I have observed that some pdfs do not render too well
on my reader - it seems that they make this software "too new" to be
solid & fast nowadays. Same pdfs converted to djvu read like a dream,
however. Having more than few supported book formats is nice.

My reader also comes with BT, possibly meant to connect headphones but
perhaps usable for BT keyboard. Might be a thing to try in a future
(or not), I mention it to let others know there may be such an option
in case they care about it (I really do not, but I do not make those
things so what can I do...).


Tomasz Rola

** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.      **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home    **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...      **
**                                                                 **
** Tomasz Rola             **

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-20 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-02 18:54 [COFF] Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-02 19:23 ` [COFF] " Clem Cole
2023-03-02 19:38   ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-02 23:01   ` Stuff Received
2023-03-02 23:46     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-03  1:08     ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-03  2:10       ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-03  3:34         ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-02 21:53 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03  1:05   ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-03  3:04     ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03  3:53       ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-03 13:47         ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03 19:26           ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-03 10:59 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-03 13:11   ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03 13:42     ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-03 19:19       ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-04 10:15         ` [COFF] Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep.) Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-07 21:49           ` [COFF] " Tomasz Rola
2023-03-07 22:46             ` Tomasz Rola
2023-06-20 16:02           ` Michael Parson
2023-06-20 21:26             ` Tomasz Rola [this message]
2023-06-22 15:45               ` Michael Parson
2023-07-10  9:08                 ` [COFF] Re: Reader, paper, tablet, phone (was: Re: Reading PDFs on a mobile. (Was: Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep.)) Tomasz Rola
2023-03-03 16:12   ` [COFF] Re: Requesting thoughts on extended regular expressions in grep Dave Horsfall
2023-03-03 17:13     ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03 17:38       ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-03 19:09         ` Dan Cross
2023-03-03 19:36     ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-04 10:26       ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-03 19:06 ` Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-03 19:31   ` Dan Cross
2023-03-04 10:07   ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-06 10:01 ` Ed Bradford
2023-03-06 21:01   ` Dan Cross
2023-03-06 21:49     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-07  1:43     ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-07  4:01       ` Ed Bradford
2023-03-07 11:39         ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-07 18:31           ` [COFF] " Grant Taylor via COFF
2023-03-08 11:22           ` Ed Bradford
2023-03-07 16:14         ` Dan Cross
2023-03-07 17:34           ` [COFF] " Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-07 18:33             ` [COFF] " Dan Cross
2023-03-07  4:19     ` Ed Bradford

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