Threading problems

Threading problems

[Jorge Godoy]

Anyone here is having any threading problems when other people see
your news messages?

Some friends of mine are telling me that some messages of mine are not
being put correctly on the thread. We've tracked that sometimes the
References header is missing. Isn't it obligatory by RFC 2980? I've
seen some changes that had 'references' on ChangeLog and were done on
December 29th... 


See you,
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Re: Threading problems

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:

> Some friends of mine are telling me that some messages of mine are not
> being put correctly on the thread. We've tracked that sometimes the
> References header is missing.

You haven't been fiddling with `message-required-headers', have you?  

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Threading problems

[Jorge Godoy]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:
>
>> Some friends of mine are telling me that some messages of mine are not
>> being put correctly on the thread. We've tracked that sometimes the
>> References header is missing.
>
> You haven't been fiddling with `message-required-headers', have you?  

No. I only changed the visible headers:

(setq gnus-visible-headers "^X-Spam-Status:\\|^Date:\\|^From:\\|^To:\\|^Subject:\\|^Newsgroups:\\|^Reply-To:\\|^Cc:\\|^Organization:\\|^Followup-To:\\|^User-Agent:\\|^X-Newsreader:\\|^X-Bogosity:\\|^References:")


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Re: Threading problems

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:

>> You haven't been fiddling with `message-required-headers', have you?  
>
> No. I only changed the visible headers:

And you generated correct References here.

Under what circumstances don't you generate References?

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Re: Threading problems

[Jorge Godoy]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:
>
>>> You haven't been fiddling with `message-required-headers', have you?  
>>
>> No. I only changed the visible headers:
>
> And you generated correct References here.
>
> Under what circumstances don't you generate References?

I don't know. I think that when I save a message in drafts and then
resume it is one. 

I'm trying to find out if it happens when the previous message had no
references... It might be a problem with DNews too. That's the nntp
server used on the place where people are telling me they're having
problems. 

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Re: Threading problems

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:

> I don't know. I think that when I save a message in drafts and then
> resume it is one. 

The References header is supposed to be generated when the message is
saved to the draft buffer.  Doesn't this happen to you?

(When I pressed `C-x C-s', Emacs generated three new headers --
References, From and X-Draft-From.  I hadn't actually seen that in
action before.  Neat.  :-)

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Re: Threading problems

[Jorge Godoy]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@quimbies.gnus.org> writes:

> Jorge Godoy <godoy@metalab.unc.edu> writes:
>
>> I don't know. I think that when I save a message in drafts and then
>> resume it is one. 
>
> The References header is supposed to be generated when the message is
> saved to the draft buffer.  Doesn't this happen to you?
>
> (When I pressed `C-x C-s', Emacs generated three new headers --
> References, From and X-Draft-From.  I hadn't actually seen that in
> action before.  Neat.  :-)

It does... The 'autosave' (that puts the message on drafts while I'm
writing it or when there's a crash) doesn't. 

Hmmmm... 


OK... Lars, thanks. I won't take more of your time. I'll recompile
Emacs and Gnus here... I think it's something with regards to the
crash I was talking about. I've checked and when Gnus crash these
headers aren't generated in the autosaved message. 



Sorry,
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Re: Threading problems

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Feb 11 2003, Jorge Godoy wrote:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@quimbies.gnus.org> writes:
[...]
>> The References header is supposed to be generated when the message is
>> saved to the draft buffer.  Doesn't this happen to you?
>>
>> (When I pressed `C-x C-s', Emacs generated three new headers --
>> References, From and X-Draft-From.  I hadn't actually seen that in
>> action before.  Neat.  :-)
>
> It does... The 'autosave' (that puts the message on drafts while I'm
> writing it or when there's a crash) doesn't. 

I've seen the same here yesterday: No References in an outgoing
posting after resuming a message from an autosave file.

Jorge, you may set message-generate-headers-first to '(References):

,----[ C-h v message-generate-headers-first RET ]
| message-generate-headers-first's value is (References)
| 
| Documentation:
| [...]
| This can also be a list of headers that should be generated before
| composing.
`----

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Re: Threading problems

[Jorge Godoy]

Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> Jorge, you may set message-generate-headers-first to '(References):

Thanks, Reiner!


I've install XEmacs here --- I wanted to give it a try --- and the
problem with the crash is gone, but I'll add that to
message-generate-headers-first, just in case.


So, both problems are solved and none of them were in Gnus --- well,
this last one has a Gnus solution... ;-)

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