Usage of ~/.newsrc

Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Michael Albinus]

Hi,

the manual (especially the Emacs manual) says, that gnus uses the file
".newsrc". According to my Emacs instance, this isn't the case anymore.

So is this still true? Or does gnus use only ".newsrc.eld" these days?

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> the manual (especially the Emacs manual) says, that gnus uses the file
> ".newsrc". According to my Emacs instance, this isn't the case anymore.
>
> So is this still true? Or does gnus use only ".newsrc.eld" these days?

This is controlled by `gnus-save-newsrc-file', which defaults to t, so I
think the manual is correct still...

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Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Michael Albinus]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Hi Lars,

>> the manual (especially the Emacs manual) says, that gnus uses the file
>> ".newsrc". According to my Emacs instance, this isn't the case anymore.
>>
>> So is this still true? Or does gnus use only ".newsrc.eld" these days?
>
> This is controlled by `gnus-save-newsrc-file', which defaults to t, so I
> think the manual is correct still...

Makes sense. But:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
gnus-save-newsrc-file is a variable defined in ‘gnus-start.el’.
Its value is t
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ ls -l ~/.newsrc
-rw-rw-r-- 1 albinus albinus 0 Mar 12  2012 /home/albinus/.newsrc
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So the file isn't saved for 6 years ...

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> gnus-save-newsrc-file is a variable defined in ‘gnus-start.el’.
> Its value is t
>
> $ ls -l ~/.newsrc
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 albinus albinus 0 Mar 12  2012 /home/albinus/.newsrc
>
> So the file isn't saved for 6 years ...

Hm...  Well, it'll only get saved if you have groups from a "primary"
server.  The idea being that people used different newsreaders to talk
to their main NNTP server, while you'd have a couple of groups from
other servers, too (that aren't saved in that file).

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Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Jochen Hein]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> This is controlled by `gnus-save-newsrc-file', which defaults to t, so I
>> think the manual is correct still...
>
> Makes sense. But:
>
> gnus-save-newsrc-file is a variable defined in ‘gnus-start.el’.
> Its value is t
>
> $ ls -l ~/.newsrc
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 albinus albinus 0 Mar 12  2012 /home/albinus/.newsrc
>
> So the file isn't saved for 6 years ...

On my system the file ~/.newsrc is current.  Do you have
gnus-current-startup-file or something like that changed?

Jochen

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Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Michael Albinus]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Hi Lars,

> Hm...  Well, it'll only get saved if you have groups from a "primary"
> server.  The idea being that people used different newsreaders to talk
> to their main NNTP server, while you'd have a couple of groups from
> other servers, too (that aren't saved in that file).

Thanks, this explains it. I have no primary server:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
gnus-select-method is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
Its value is (nnnil)
Original value was (nntp "news")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So there's no need to change the Emacs 26 manual here.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Usage of ~/.newsrc

[Michael Albinus]

Jochen Hein <jochen@jochen.org> writes:

Hi Jochen,

> On my system the file ~/.newsrc is current.  Do you have
> gnus-current-startup-file or something like that changed?

No, I haven't. But I have also no primary news server, and this let gnus
ignore my .newsrc file, as Lars has explained.

> Jochen

Thanks for your reply, and best regards, Michael.