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From: jacobs@genehack.org (John S. J. Anderson)
Subject: Re: db-backed mail back end
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:39:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k7u9g58t.fsf@mendel.genehack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3665tvr7g.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> If we were to design a mail back end that's supposed to scale to
> several hundred thousands of messages in thousands of groups -- how
> would we do that?  Perhaps somebody has pondered this question
> before.  :-)

I offer a semi-serious answer to your joking question, not because I
think it needs one, but because I'd really like to see this happen and
I don't have the skills to do it myself[1]. 8^)=

There are a couple of emailers out there that exist basically as thin
layers over a DB backend, so it might be informative to pull them
apart and see how they work. Pronto is one, I think.

I would contend (after thinking about it for, oh, 30 seconds) that the
Right Way(tm) would be to have one large table for the mails (with
obvious things normalized out to lookup tables, of course), with a
field or fields allowing arbitrary groupings ("Mailing List:", etc.)
Then "groups" as they currently exist in Gnus become views, searches
become much easier to do, etc.

Apologies if this is all so obvious as to not be worth mentioning...

Oh, and because this seems like a good time to mention it: something
like <http://www.mozilla.org/blue-sky/misc/199805/intertwingle.html>
on a Gnus skeleton would be _*awesome*_. 

john.

Footnotes: 
[1]  And I could acquire them, true, but I'd like it sooner than
     that. So...

-- 
It takes an uncommon mind to think of these things.
              --- Calvin



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-23  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-22 23:33 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  0:23 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-23  0:36   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  0:49     ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-23  1:36       ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  1:34     ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  2:39     ` John S. J. Anderson [this message]
2002-01-24  1:18       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 14:37         ` Randal L. Schwartz
2002-01-23  3:46     ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-24  0:51       ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-23  8:52     ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-26 20:55       ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-23 11:45     ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-23 14:11       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-23 14:26     ` Mark Milhollan
2002-01-24  1:19       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23 17:50     ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24  0:50     ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-24  1:24       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  1:49         ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-24  8:36           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  8:58             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24  9:28               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 10:37                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24 17:11         ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 17:58           ` nnmaildir (was: db-backed mail back end) Josh Huber
2002-01-24 18:14             ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 18:43               ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 22:05                 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 22:51                   ` nnmaildir Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 18:39             ` nnmaildir Paul Jarc
2002-01-24  9:14       ` db-backed mail back end Sean Neakums
2002-01-24  9:59         ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-24 10:03           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 10:24           ` Sean Neakums
2002-01-24 11:49             ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24 11:32           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-24 11:58             ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-24 12:11               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 12:15                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 12:54                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-24 15:05                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 20:40                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  1:28                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  2:17                           ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  2:42                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  3:23                               ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  3:34                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  3:37                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  4:19                                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  4:47                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  9:23                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  9:30                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  9:35                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  9:58                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 10:04                                               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 10:15                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 12:12                                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 12:19                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 13:15                                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 13:59                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 15:43                                                           ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]                                                             ` <m3y9immn0r.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
     [not found]                                                               ` <m3u1tammvs.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
2002-01-25 17:01                                                                 ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]                                                               ` <2nbsfitmtx.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu>
2002-01-25 17:19                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 17:33                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 11:12                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 11:31                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 19:03                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-27  1:29                                                                           ` Raja R Harinath
2002-01-27  1:39                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 22:17                                                                         ` Christoph Conrad
2002-01-28 14:25                                                                       ` Jan Vroonhof
2002-01-29  2:34                                                                         ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-26 21:10                                                                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  5:32                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  4:29                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  5:16                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  5:29                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  5:39                                       ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  5:48                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  7:05                                 ` Justin Sheehy
2002-01-28 12:56                                 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24 16:13                     ` Frank Schmitt
2002-01-24 18:36                       ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-24 12:29               ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-25 14:40                 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2002-01-24 13:50               ` Zlatko Calusic
2002-01-24 22:27                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2002-01-25  2:57                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  4:42                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 14:51               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24 17:14           ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 17:52             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-23  0:53 ` Nevin Kapur
2002-01-23  1:29 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  1:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  2:33     ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24  1:13       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  2:05         ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24  8:39           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-27 22:32 ` Rob Browning

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