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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: db-backed mail back end
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 05:29:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3u1tbqchq.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hepbdrsj.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net>

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:

>> There's certainly no harm to making Gnus able to handle the storage
>> needs of gargantuan archives.  Sure, knock yourself out.  But that's
>> not a problem currently being faced by more than maybe 5 people on the
>> planet, whereas every single Gnus user has to worry over the entry
>> time cost of a busy group with 900 new messages.
>
> That would be something that would be good to address first. Don't
> mistake it for the only problem, though.

It's not really an area that's been addressed before, either, so it's
an area that can be done something with.  Scoring and threading have
already been optimized several times.

There are lots of new things in Gnus that haven't been particularly
optimized.  For instance, I just did a new batch of elping, and saw
that the `seen' code called `gnus-member-of-range' once per article
displayed, which is a hight linear cost.  I separated that thing out
into its own function and saw that the `gnus-newsgroup-unseen'
computation (in a 1000 article summary buffer) took 1 second.  So I
wrote `gnus-inverse-list-range-intersection', and the computation now
takes 0.001426 seconds, says elp.

There's a lot of computational complexity in Gnus that needs more
eyes.  I think it's a safe bet that normal group entry can easily be
made a few orders of magnitude faster.  (And the
view-one-article-in-a- 200K-group can be made hundreds of orders of
magnitudes faster.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-01-25  4:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-22 23:33 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  0:23 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-23  0:36   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  0:49     ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-23  1:36       ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  1:34     ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  2:39     ` John S. J. Anderson
2002-01-24  1:18       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 14:37         ` Randal L. Schwartz
2002-01-23  3:46     ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-24  0:51       ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-23  8:52     ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-26 20:55       ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-23 11:45     ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-23 14:11       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-23 14:26     ` Mark Milhollan
2002-01-24  1:19       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23 17:50     ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24  0:50     ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-24  1:24       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  1:49         ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-24  8:36           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  8:58             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24  9:28               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 10:37                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24 17:11         ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 17:58           ` nnmaildir (was: db-backed mail back end) Josh Huber
2002-01-24 18:14             ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 18:43               ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 22:05                 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 22:51                   ` nnmaildir Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 18:39             ` nnmaildir Paul Jarc
2002-01-24  9:14       ` db-backed mail back end Sean Neakums
2002-01-24  9:59         ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-24 10:03           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 10:24           ` Sean Neakums
2002-01-24 11:49             ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24 11:32           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-24 11:58             ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-24 12:11               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 12:15                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 12:54                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-24 15:05                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 20:40                       ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  1:28                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  2:17                           ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  2:42                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  3:23                               ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  3:34                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  3:37                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  4:19                                   ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-01-25  4:47                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  9:23                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  9:30                                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  9:35                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  9:58                                             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 10:04                                               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 10:15                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 12:12                                                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 12:19                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 13:15                                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25 13:59                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 15:43                                                           ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]                                                             ` <m3y9immn0r.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
     [not found]                                                               ` <m3u1tammvs.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
2002-01-25 17:01                                                                 ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]                                                               ` <2nbsfitmtx.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu>
2002-01-25 17:19                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25 17:33                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 11:12                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 11:31                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 19:03                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-27  1:29                                                                           ` Raja R Harinath
2002-01-27  1:39                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-26 22:17                                                                         ` Christoph Conrad
2002-01-28 14:25                                                                       ` Jan Vroonhof
2002-01-29  2:34                                                                         ` Russ Allbery
2002-01-26 21:10                                                                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-25  5:32                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  4:29                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2002-01-25  5:16                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  5:29                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  5:39                                       ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-25  5:48                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  7:05                                 ` Justin Sheehy
2002-01-28 12:56                                 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24 16:13                     ` Frank Schmitt
2002-01-24 18:36                       ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-24 12:29               ` Simon Josefsson
2002-01-25 14:40                 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2002-01-24 13:50               ` Zlatko Calusic
2002-01-24 22:27                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2002-01-25  2:57                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-25  4:42                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24 14:51               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-24 17:14           ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-24 17:52             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-01-23  0:53 ` Nevin Kapur
2002-01-23  1:29 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-23  1:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-23  2:33     ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24  1:13       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-24  2:05         ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-24  8:39           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-27 22:32 ` Rob Browning

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