Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Steinar Bang]

Platform: Intel Pentium, debian woody, GNU Emacs 20.7.2,
	Oort Gnus v0.05 (CVS checkout from today)

After a CVS update today, I am no longer able to post to
news.gnus.org.  It tries posting to the primary NNTP server:
	Sending message 1 of 1...
	Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
	441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 
	Couldn't send message via news: 441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

This worked before the update, so I guess something has changed.  I
tried searching the manual for "foreign" and "posting", but didn't
find anything relevant.

Thanx for all hints and tips!


- Steinar

Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> After a CVS update today, I am no longer able to post to
> news.gnus.org.  It tries posting to the primary NNTP server:
> 	Sending message 1 of 1...
> 	Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
> 	441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

`gnus-post-method' is supposed to default to 'current'.  Does it do
that for you?

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Oystein Viggen]

* [Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen] 

> `gnus-post-method' is supposed to default to 'current'.  Does it do
> that for you?

I have the same problem as Steinar here with oort 0.05 snapshot.
gnus-post-method is set to 'current.

(gnus-post-method 1 "nntp+news:hist.test") will give (nntp
"nntp-trd.uninett.no"), which is the gnus-nntp-server.  I believe it
should be returning (nntp "news") for stuff to be working.

I am at a loss on how to fix it, though.

Oystein
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Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Oystein Viggen <oysteivi@tihlde.org> writes:

> (gnus-post-method 1 "nntp+news:hist.test") will give (nntp
> "nntp-trd.uninett.no"), which is the gnus-nntp-server.  I believe it
> should be returning (nntp "news") for stuff to be working.

How about

(gnus-post-method nil "nntp+news:hist.test")

(I am unable to reproduce the bug.)

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Oystein Viggen]

* [Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen] 

> (gnus-post-method nil "nntp+news:hist.test")

Works wonderfully. (nntp "news")

It seems that the problem I was having was due to this old wrapper
function in my .gnus:
,----
| (add-hook 'message-setup-hook
|          (lambda ()
|            (local-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'message-send-and-exit-with-prefix)))
| (defun message-send-and-exit-with-prefix ()
|   "Call the message-send-and-exit function with a positive number argument
|    to make it post the message on the foreign NNTP server of a group, instead
|    of the default NNTP server"
|   (interactive)
|   (message-send-and-exit 1))
`----

Removing this wrapper, letting C-c C-c call the default
message-send-and-exit fixes posting to foreign servers.

Using an old hand-me-down .gnus might sometimes have its issues, it
seems  :)

Oystein
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Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>> After a CVS update today, I am no longer able to post to
>> news.gnus.org.  It tries posting to the primary NNTP server:
>> Sending message 1 of 1...
>> Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
>> 441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

> `gnus-post-method' is supposed to default to 'current'.  Does it do
> that for you?

Yes.  But I have been using agent.  Right now I have gone unplugged to
see if things will work then.  Nope...

Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 
Couldn't send message via news: 441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

Next up to try, is removing the stuff I'm quoted on in Q3.9 of the FAQ
	<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/gnus-faq/section-42.html>
ie.:
	;; Hack for posting on foreign servers
	(add-hook 'message-setup-hook
		  (lambda ()
		    (local-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'message-send-and-exit-with-prefix)))
 

Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>> After a CVS update today, I am no longer able to post to
>>> news.gnus.org.  It tries posting to the primary NNTP server:
>>> Sending message 1 of 1...
>>> Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
>>> 441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

[snip!]

> Next up to try, is removing the stuff I'm quoted on in Q3.9 of the FAQ
> 	<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/gnus-faq/section-42.html>
> ie.:
> 	;; Hack for posting on foreign servers
> 	(add-hook 'message-setup-hook
> 		  (lambda ()
> 		    (local-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'message-send-and-exit-with-prefix)))
 
Removing the above text let me post, when I was plugged.  I'm trying
once more to see if it works when I'm using agent.

Re: Problems posting to foreign NNTP server

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:
>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>> After a CVS update today, I am no longer able to post to
>>>> news.gnus.org.  It tries posting to the primary NNTP server:
>>>> Sending message 1 of 1...
>>>> Sending news with news.chello.no via nntp...
>>>> 441 Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a Valid Newsgroup) 

> [snip!]

>> Next up to try, is removing the stuff I'm quoted on in Q3.9 of the FAQ
>> 	<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/gnus-faq/section-42.html>
>> ie.:
>> 	;; Hack for posting on foreign servers
>> 	(add-hook 'message-setup-hook
>> 	          (lambda ()
>> 	                  (local-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'message-send-and-exit-with-prefix)))
 
> Removing the above text let me post, when I was plugged.  I'm trying
> once more to see if it works when I'm using agent.

Yes, that works as well.  Perhaps the FAQ should be changed?