* message-unique-id
@ 2003-04-14 20:39 Jason R. Mastaler
2003-04-15 22:35 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Jason R. Mastaler @ 2003-04-14 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
The end of `message-unique-id' says:
;; Append the newsreader name, because while the generated
;; ID is unique to this newsreader, other newsreaders might
;; otherwise generate the same ID via another algorithm.
".fsf")))
Last time I checked, ``fsf'' wasn't the name of this newsreader.
I suggest changing this string to ".gnus" to reduce the chance of
collision with other softwares.
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-14 20:39 message-unique-id Jason R. Mastaler
@ 2003-04-15 22:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-04-15 22:56 ` message-unique-id Jason R. Mastaler
2003-04-15 23:08 ` message-unique-id Paul Jarc
2003-04-15 23:19 ` message-unique-id Jesper Harder
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2003-04-15 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason@mastaler.com> writes:
> Last time I checked, ``fsf'' wasn't the name of this newsreader.
> I suggest changing this string to ".gnus" to reduce the chance of
> collision with other softwares.
I don't think there's much chance of other newsreaders using .fsf.
And it's one less character than ".gnus". :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-15 22:35 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2003-04-15 22:56 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2003-04-15 23:17 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Jason R. Mastaler @ 2003-04-15 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> I don't think there's much chance of other newsreaders using .fsf.
But, a greater chance than .gnus. It's much less obvious too that
.fsf is supposed to remain unique to Gnus.
> And it's one less character than ".gnus". :-)
It's only one extra character. Gnus' message-ids are terser than most
to begin with anyway, so you have some room.
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-14 20:39 message-unique-id Jason R. Mastaler
2003-04-15 22:35 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2003-04-15 23:08 ` Paul Jarc
2003-04-15 23:19 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-04-15 23:19 ` message-unique-id Jesper Harder
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Paul Jarc @ 2003-04-15 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason@mastaler.com> wrote:
> The end of `message-unique-id' says:
>
> ;; Append the newsreader name, because while the generated
> ;; ID is unique to this newsreader, other newsreaders might
> ;; otherwise generate the same ID via another algorithm.
> ".fsf")))
>
> Last time I checked, ``fsf'' wasn't the name of this newsreader.
The comment should be fixed, then.
It's not important that we identify the newsreader; it's important
that we identify the id-generation algorithm. Then if other
newsreaders use the same algorithm and the safe suffix, that's ok.
And if future versions of Gnus use a different algorithm, they should
use a different suffix. Granted, ".fsf" isn't a very intuitive
identifier of Gnus's current algorithm, but it's established enough
that a change isn't likely to help.
paul
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-15 22:56 ` message-unique-id Jason R. Mastaler
@ 2003-04-15 23:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2003-04-15 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason@mastaler.com> writes:
> But, a greater chance than .gnus. It's much less obvious too that
> .fsf is supposed to remain unique to Gnus.
The reason for me choosing ".fsf" over ".gnus" was partly because I
though Four Characters Should Be Enough For Everybody, and partly as a
propaganda move on behalf of the FSF.
The former requirement has kinda gone away, but the latter is still an
issue.
I'm a sneaky guy.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-14 20:39 message-unique-id Jason R. Mastaler
2003-04-15 22:35 ` message-unique-id Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-04-15 23:08 ` message-unique-id Paul Jarc
@ 2003-04-15 23:19 ` Jesper Harder
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From: Jesper Harder @ 2003-04-15 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Jason R. Mastaler" <jason@mastaler.com> writes:
> The end of `message-unique-id' says:
>
> ;; Append the newsreader name, because while the generated
> ;; ID is unique to this newsreader, other newsreaders might
> ;; otherwise generate the same ID via another algorithm.
> ".fsf")))
>
> Last time I checked, ``fsf'' wasn't the name of this newsreader. I
> suggest changing this string to ".gnus" to reduce the chance of
> collision with other softwares.
I think the 'message' library is intended to be usable by other clients
than Gnus. The string "fsf" makes more sense than "gnus" in that light,
IMHO.
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* Re: message-unique-id
2003-04-15 23:08 ` message-unique-id Paul Jarc
@ 2003-04-15 23:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2003-04-15 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:
>> ;; Append the newsreader name, because while the generated
>> ;; ID is unique to this newsreader, other newsreaders might
>> ;; otherwise generate the same ID via another algorithm.
>> ".fsf")))
>>
>> Last time I checked, ``fsf'' wasn't the name of this newsreader.
>
> The comment should be fixed, then.
I've now done so.
I think that demonstrates the problem of writing the comments before
writing the code, because obviously I was intending to put ".gnus"
there when I started writing the comment, but had changed my mind when
I hit the code. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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