* Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
@ 2001-01-05 23:23 Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Jari Aalto+mail.emacs @ 2001-01-05 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
possible. A separate "limit" is needed to show them.
It would be easy to add a configuration variable if dormants
are included in thread creation.
I could make the patch if Gnus dev team accepts the change.
Only function gnus-summary-limit-children needs a small twist.
Jari
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-05 23:23 Feature request: Show dormants when entering group Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
@ 2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-01-06 4:13 ` Harry Putnam
2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-06 12:53 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-01-07 10:18 ` Paul Stevenson
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2001-01-06 0:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:
> I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
> are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
> the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
> possible.
Uhm -- the only essential difference between dormant and ticked
articles is that dormant articles aren't shown (unless they have
follow-ups). So what don't you just tick the articles instead?
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2001-01-06 4:13 ` Harry Putnam
2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2001-01-06 4:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:
>
> > I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
> > are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
> > the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
> > possible.
>
> Uhm -- the only essential difference between dormant and ticked
> articles is that dormant articles aren't shown (unless they have
> follow-ups). So what don't you just tick the articles instead?
Another thing... I haven't tested it thoroughly but I think if you
press `/ D' in a group, it will still show dormant the next time you
enter too. That is, press `/ D', close the group, come back later
and reopen it... dormant will be displayed.
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-05 23:23 Feature request: Show dormants when entering group Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2001-01-06 12:53 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-01-07 10:18 ` Paul Stevenson
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2001-01-06 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Gnus mailing list
Wild stab in the dark: you are using total-expire and tick the
messages that you want to keep around. And so you think that you need
dormant for the todo items.
Ideas: use auto-expire instead, then you can mark as read the articles
you want to keep around, and then you can use the tick mark for todo
items.
Another idea: use dormant for the articles you keep around and ticked
for the todo items.
kai
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-05 23:23 Feature request: Show dormants when entering group Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-01-06 12:53 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2001-01-07 10:18 ` Paul Stevenson
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paul Stevenson @ 2001-01-07 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:
> I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
> are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
> the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
> possible. A separate "limit" is needed to show them.
WIBNI (count this as a feature request if you like) There were
user-definable marks? That is, the user could create a new kind of
mark and give it various characteristics like "read but not answered,
although I would like to, unless its past a week old, then I don't
care" or indeed a "todo" mark.
Then one could have a virtual group with all your mail in it, and with
a suitable hook upon entering it could be limited to all those
articles bearing gnus-user-mark-B and, lo, you have your todo group...
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-06 0:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-01-06 4:13 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2001-01-07 19:24 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Jari Aalto+mail.emacs @ 2001-01-07 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
* 2001-01-06 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> list.emacs-ding
* Message-Id: <m3vgrtmr8v.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
| jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:
|
| > I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
| > are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
| > the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
| > possible.
|
| Uhm -- the only essential difference between dormant and ticked
| articles is that dormant articles aren't shown (unless they have
| follow-ups). So what don't you just tick the articles instead?
It's too little. In real I would like to have various marks
in the article according to their importance. I use
! for hihjly important
? For later ...
That makes a life little easier. In addition I have font-lock
on, which colours according to TICK, so I can keep up with the
progress.
Ah, and I also disengage "*" for other purposes when I'm
really out of article markings, guess for what .... (It's
not that bad, since de-asterisking will remove the cache file)
Jari
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-06 4:13 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
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From: Jari Aalto+mail.emacs @ 2001-01-07 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
* 2001-01-05 Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> list.emacs-ding
* Message-Id: <m3ae95z5av.fsf@gnus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>
| Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
|
| > jari.aalto@poboxes.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:
| >
| > > I use dormants for "todo" entries and not really for what they
| > > are orgiinally menat for. This means, that I always like to see
| > > the buffer generated with dormant, but in current gnus that is not
| > > possible.
| >
| > Uhm -- the only essential difference between dormant and ticked
| > articles is that dormant articles aren't shown (unless they have
| > follow-ups). So what don't you just tick the articles instead?
|
| Another thing... I haven't tested it thoroughly but I think if you
| press `/ D' in a group, it will still show dormant the next time you
| enter too. That is, press `/ D', close the group, come back later
| and reopen it... dormant will be displayed.
But that's a second hand solution. Pressing / will re-generate whole
buffer, imagine 200 + articles, even more....
And pressing / D in every 20 groups when I launch gnus.
I would really like Gnus to allow showing dormants in the fist
buffer creation pass.
And this is easy to implement, if I get permission to muck the
code and make a patch.
Jari
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* Re: Feature request: Show dormants when entering group
2001-01-07 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
@ 2001-01-07 19:24 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2001-01-07 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Gnus mailing list
On 07 Jan 2001, Jari Aalto wrote:
> It's too little. In real I would like to have various marks
> in the article according to their importance.
Somebody said something about user-defined marks a while ago. Not
sure what became of it, though.
You might be able to kluge it with editing the article and inserting a
header. And then you can add that header to gnus-extra-headers and
nnmail-extra-headers. And `/ x' allows you to limit to those.
kai
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