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From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Who sets Sender:?
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 07:33:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1it5b9dwq.fsf@reader.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3bsb3c94w.fsf@barry_fishman.att.net> (Barry Fishman's message of "Sun, 26 May 2002 09:48:47 -0400")

Barry Fishman <barry_fishman@att.net> writes:

> Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> writes:
>
>> / Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> was heard to say:
>> | Sender contains the mailbox of the agent responsible for submitting the
>> | message to the network (MTA).  The idea is that while the originator
>> | mailbox may be ndw@nwalsh.com, the Sender is the local user on the local
>> | machine.
>>
>> Ok, fair enough. So this presents an interesting conundrum. In my
>> case, the "local machine" has no name. I'm on a laptop behind a
>> firewall attached to a cable provider that generates a "random" IP
>> address via DHCP.
>
> I suspect this situation is very common.  My home network name I keep
> as just ".local" since at least conveys the impression that it will
> not be found from DNS, and is not expected to be unique.  I was also
> wondered about a message-id which was not anchored to a unique
> address.

Barry, I had a little trouble figuring out what the end result of our
customizations is.
>
> The approach I take is probably a bit convolved but begins by
> giving my system a unique name which should be at least traceable
> by humans:
>
> (setq mail-host-address "barry_fishman.att.net")

What does gnus do with this information?

> Which is my ISP username grafted into its network domain.
> I then convince the message package to use it, and not send any
> sender field:
>
> (setq gnus-local-domain "att.net")

Ditto here.  

> ;; I don't really have valid FQDN information so clean up header
> (setq message-syntax-checks '((sender . disabled)))

with this done, what fields are effected by your other settings?

> ;; Makes sure (message-make-fqdn) uses mail-host-address when we
> ;; are on the .local network.
> (setq message-bogus-system-names "^localhost\\.\\|\\.local$")

What is the advantage of this?

With sender disabled, is the only field being effected the rhs of
message id?

Does this accomplish the same things:

  (defun message-make-fqdn ()
    "My  hacked message-id."
    "reader.newsguy.com")





  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-26 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-20 20:19 Norman Walsh
2002-05-20 21:24 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 13:43   ` Norman Walsh
2002-05-21 14:25     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 14:38       ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-24 22:55     ` Steinar Bang
2002-05-26 13:48     ` Barry Fishman
2002-05-26 14:33       ` Harry Putnam [this message]
2002-05-26 17:17         ` Barry Fishman
2002-05-20 22:12 ` Matt Armstrong
2002-05-21  1:58   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 14:14     ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-21 15:04       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 15:27         ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-21 16:27           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 16:56             ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-21 18:33               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 18:50                 ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-21 19:04                   ` Matt Armstrong
     [not found]                     ` <84g00lma45.fsf@rjk.greenend.org.uk>
2002-05-21 22:07                       ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-22 12:05                         ` Richard Kettlewell
2002-05-21 19:46                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 20:13                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-21 21:16                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 21:51                         ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-22  0:02                           ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-22 15:23                             ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-22 15:54                               ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-22 16:03                                 ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-22 17:04                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-22 17:25                                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-05-22 17:56                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-22 17:38                                     ` Bjørn Mork
2002-05-22 18:04                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-05-21 17:52     ` Matt Armstrong
2002-05-21 18:48       ` Stainless Steel Rat

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