* Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
@ 2002-01-04 17:17 Harry Putnam
2002-01-05 16:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-04 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
How is this variable used? It really isn't clear in the
manual what gets matched or how. I see no example. The customization page
provides no clues either.
`gnus-update-score-entry-dates'
If this variable is non-`nil', matching score entries will have
their dates updated. (This is how Gnus controls expiry--all
non-matching entries will become too old while matching entries
will stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this variable to
`nil', even matching entries will grow old and will have to face
that oh-so grim reaper.
Is this applicable only to scores defined as `temporary'. This really
needs some elaboration in the manual, I think.
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* Re: Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
2002-01-04 17:17 Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-05 16:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-05 17:01 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-05 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> How is this variable used? It really isn't clear in the
> manual what gets matched or how. I see no example. The customization page
> provides no clues either.
>
> `gnus-update-score-entry-dates'
> If this variable is non-`nil', matching score entries will have
> their dates updated. (This is how Gnus controls expiry--all
> non-matching entries will become too old while matching entries
> will stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this variable to
> `nil', even matching entries will grow old and will have to face
> that oh-so grim reaper.
>
> Is this applicable only to scores defined as `temporary'. This really
> needs some elaboration in the manual, I think.
Probably; yes. But I'm not quite sure how to elaborate -- only
temporary score entries are, er, temparorary. The permanent ones are,
like, permanent. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
2002-01-05 16:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2002-01-05 17:01 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-05 17:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-05 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> How is this variable used? It really isn't clear in the
>> manual what gets matched or how. I see no example. The customization page
>> provides no clues either.
>>
>> `gnus-update-score-entry-dates'
>> If this variable is non-`nil', matching score entries will have
>> their dates updated. (This is how Gnus controls expiry--all
>> non-matching entries will become too old while matching entries
>> will stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this variable to
>> `nil', even matching entries will grow old and will have to face
>> that oh-so grim reaper.
>>
>> Is this applicable only to scores defined as `temporary'. This really
>> needs some elaboration in the manual, I think.
>
> Probably; yes. But I'm not quite sure how to elaborate -- only
> temporary score entries are, er, temparorary. The permanent ones are,
> like, permanent. :-)
Its bad manners to chide a retard.... :-)
What about the matching Mr. Smarty pants. :-) What is it that gets
matched, how is the regexp inserted?
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* Re: Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
2002-01-05 17:01 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-05 17:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-05 18:40 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-05 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>>> `gnus-update-score-entry-dates'
>>> If this variable is non-`nil', matching score entries will have
>>> their dates updated. (This is how Gnus controls expiry--all
>>> non-matching entries will become too old while matching entries
>>> will stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this variable to
>>> `nil', even matching entries will grow old and will have to face
>>> that oh-so grim reaper.
>>>
>>> Is this applicable only to scores defined as `temporary'. This really
>>> needs some elaboration in the manual, I think.
>>
>> Probably; yes. But I'm not quite sure how to elaborate -- only
>> temporary score entries are, er, temparorary. The permanent ones are,
>> like, permanent. :-)
>
> Its bad manners to chide a retard.... :-)
>
> What about the matching Mr. Smarty pants. :-) What is it that gets
> matched, how is the regexp inserted?
Oh, right. That's not very clear.
If a score entry "match" -- for some value of "match" -- then the
thing that's described above happens. You can score on many different
things, but if a score rule is triggered, we call that a "match". So
the text above talks about what happens (or not) to score rule entries
depending on whether they were triggered or not.
So `gnus-update-score-entry-dates' really determines how temporary
score rule entries are aged. If nil, all temporary score rule entries
are aged. If non-nil, only the non-triggered score rule entries are
aged.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
2002-01-05 17:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2002-01-05 18:40 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-05 18:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-05 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> So `gnus-update-score-entry-dates' really determines how temporary
> score rule entries are aged. If nil, all temporary score rule entries
> are aged. If non-nil, only the non-triggered score rule entries are
> aged.
Ahaa so `match' = `triggered' . That makes sense now. Maybe a tiny
patch is in order. (Hope I did that right..(i.e.
diff -u gnus.texi gnus.texi.edited >gnus.texi.diff))
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--- gnus.texi Sat Jan 5 10:02:10 2002
+++ gnus.texi.new Sat Jan 5 10:20:56 2002
@@ -17025,12 +17025,12 @@
@item gnus-update-score-entry-dates
@vindex gnus-update-score-entry-dates
-If this variable is non-@code{nil}, matching score entries will have
-their dates updated. (This is how Gnus controls expiry---all
-non-matching entries will become too old while matching entries will
-stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this variable to @code{nil},
-even matching entries will grow old and will have to face that oh-so
-grim reaper.
+If this variable is non-@code{nil}, temporary score entries that have
+been triggered (matched) will have their dates updated. (This is how Gnus
+controls expiry---all non-matched-entries will become too old while
+matched entries will stay fresh and young.) However, if you set this
+variable to @code{nil}, even matched entries will grow old and will
+have to face that oh-so grim reaper.
@item gnus-score-after-write-file-function
@vindex gnus-score-after-write-file-function
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* Re: Score variable gnus-update-score-entry-dates
2002-01-05 18:40 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-05 18:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-05 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Ahaa so `match' = `triggered' . That makes sense now. Maybe a tiny
> patch is in order. (Hope I did that right..(i.e.
> diff -u gnus.texi gnus.texi.edited >gnus.texi.diff))
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Thanks for the patch; I've applied it to Oort Gnus v0.05 (i. e., CVS).
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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