procmail/gnus problem?

procmail/gnus problem?

[Nick Papadonis]

Hi.  

I have HOURS trying to find a solution to this problem. I don't know if anyone can point me in the right direction. 

Recently I set up procmail, and attempted to change the gnus startup file to import my procmail directory.  I added the following:
(setq
 gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
 nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
 nnmail-procmail-directory "~/incoming/"
 nnmail-delete-incoming t
)

My mailing lists are spooled into ~/incoming/ and have extensions like 'list.gnus.spool'.
I thought they would be imported to -> list.gnus, etc...

When starting gnus 5.8.8 I get the following error:
Wrong type argument: listp, procmail

I am using xemacs 21.1.12.

Any insight into this error appreciated.  I saw something in the list where nnmail-spool-file shouldn't be set to procmail, but wasn't sure if thats what I wanted.

Thanks.

- Nick

Here is a backtrace.

Backtrace:
Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp procmail)
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil)
  nnml-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml ""))
  gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil)
  gnus-read-active-file(nil nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code("..." [dont-connect did-connect gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-dribble-read-file gnus-use-grouplens bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil level gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook] 4)
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus)
  command-execute(gnus t)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

Re: procmail/gnus problem?

[Nevin Kapur]

>>>>> "NP" == Nick Papadonis <nick@sturgeon.coelacanth.com> writes:

NP> Recently I set up procmail, and attempted to change the gnus startup file to import my procmail directory.  I added the following:
NP> (setq
NP>  gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
NP>  nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
NP>  nnmail-procmail-directory "~/incoming/"
NP>  nnmail-delete-incoming t
NP> )

Here is the relevant portion of my procmail setup. I think you might be
using some obsolete variables.

(setq 
      gnus-secondary-select-methods
      '((nnml ""))			; Incoming Mail
      nnml-get-new-mail t
      mail-sources
      '((directory
	 :path "~/.spool/"
	 :suffix "")))

NP> My mailing lists are spooled into ~/incoming/ and have extensions
NP> like 'list.gnus.spool'.

You should change the path and suffix parameter accordingly.

NP> I thought they would be imported to -> list.gnus, etc...

Yes. This is what will happen.
-- 
Nevin

Re: procmail/gnus problem?

[Nick Papadonis]

Thanks Nevin,

This worked... i ended up respooling most of my mail because I messed
my directories.  Who knows if switching over to procmail was
productive in any way.

This brings up the question, why does the FAQ say to insert the
following in the startup file? :
(setq
 gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
 nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
 nnmail-procmail-directory "~/incoming/"
 nnmail-delete-incoming t
)

Should the maintainer be contacted?  Is the previous valid and I made a
mistake?

- Nick

>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur <nkapur@bellatlantic.net> writes:

>>>>> "NP" == Nick Papadonis <nick@sturgeon.coelacanth.com> writes:
    NP> Recently I set up procmail, and attempted to change the gnus
    NP> startup file to import my procmail directory.  I added the
    NP> following: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
    NP> nnmail-spool-file 'procmail nnmail-procmail-directory
    NP> "~/incoming/" nnmail-delete-incoming t )

    Nevin> Here is the relevant portion of my procmail setup. I think
    Nevin> you might be using some obsolete variables.

    Nevin> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) ; Incoming
    Nevin> Mail nnml-get-new-mail t mail-sources '((directory :path
    Nevin> "~/.spool/" :suffix "")))

    NP> My mailing lists are spooled into ~/incoming/ and have
    NP> extensions like 'list.gnus.spool'.

    Nevin> You should change the path and suffix parameter
    Nevin> accordingly.

    NP> I thought they would be imported to -> list.gnus, etc...

    Nevin> Yes. This is what will happen.  -- Nevin


-- 

.. Nick Papadonis

Re: procmail/gnus problem?

[Kai Großjohann]

On 06 Nov 2000, Nick Papadonis wrote:

> This brings up the question, why does the FAQ say to insert the
> following in the startup file? :
> (setq
>  gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
>  nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
>  nnmail-procmail-directory "~/incoming/"
>  nnmail-delete-incoming t
> )

This was correct until Gnus 5.7.  Sometime in the 5.8 development
cycle, mail-sources.el was introduced.  Maybe the FAQ is out of date?

Where did you find the FAQ?  I just looked in the current version in
the Gnus info file, but didn't find anything.

kai
-- 
The arms should be held in a natural and unaffected way and never
be conspicuous. -- Revised Technique of Latin American Dancing

Re: procmail/gnus problem?

[Nick Papadonis]

Off www.gnus.org (Official Version) :
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus/

I also looked at the info FAQ and it doesn't include section 4.8.

Looks like the one with gnus dist is incomplete or the 'official'
version on the web May-22-00 needs an update.

>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:

    Kai> On 06 Nov 2000, Nick Papadonis wrote:
    >> This brings up the question, why does the FAQ say to insert the
    >> following in the startup file? : (setq
    >> gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")) nnmail-spool-file
    >> 'procmail nnmail-procmail-directory "~/incoming/"
    >> nnmail-delete-incoming t )

    Kai> This was correct until Gnus 5.7.  Sometime in the 5.8
    Kai> development cycle, mail-sources.el was introduced.  Maybe the
    Kai> FAQ is out of date?

    Kai> Where did you find the FAQ?  I just looked in the current
    Kai> version in the Gnus info file, but didn't find anything.

    Kai> kai -- The arms should be held in a natural and unaffected
    Kai> way and never be conspicuous. -- Revised Technique of Latin
    Kai> American Dancing


-- 

.. Nick Papadonis

Gnus FAQ bug report (was: Re: procmail/gnus problem?)

[Kai Großjohann]

Dear Justin,

the Gnus FAQ mentions the following Lisp code in `Q4.8 Procmail and
Gnus':

/----
| (setq
|  gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
|  nnmail-use-procmail t
|  nnmail-spool-file 'procmail            ; same as nnmail-use-procmail :-)
|  nnmail-procmail-directory "~/.incoming/"
|  nnmail-delete-incoming t
| )
\----

For Gnus 5.8, this should be changed as follows, I think:

/----
| (setq
|  gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
|  mail-sources '((directory :path "~/.incoming/" :suffix ".spool"))
|  mail-source-delete-incoming t
| )
\----

I'm not sure if it is necessary to also (setq nnmail-spool-file
mail-sources) to work around a bug in the officially released version
of Gnus.  Anyone?  This might have been fixed in 5.8.7 already.

kai
-- 
The arms should be held in a natural and unaffected way and never
be conspicuous. -- Revised Technique of Latin American Dancing

Re: Gnus FAQ bug report (was: Re: procmail/gnus problem?)

[Justin Sheehy]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> For Gnus 5.8, this should be changed as follows, I think:
> 
> /----
> | (setq
> |  gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
> |  mail-sources '((directory :path "~/.incoming/" :suffix ".spool"))
> |  mail-source-delete-incoming t
> | )
> \----

Righto.  I'll add that.

> I'm not sure if it is necessary to also (setq nnmail-spool-file
> mail-sources) to work around a bug in the officially released version
> of Gnus.  Anyone?  This might have been fixed in 5.8.7 already.

Even in versions where it is fixed, it doesn't hurt, so I will put
that suggestion in the FAQ.

Thanks,

-Justin

 

Re: procmail/gnus problem?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur <nkapur@bellatlantic.net> writes:

Nevin> Here is the relevant portion of my procmail setup. I think you might be
Nevin> using some obsolete variables.

Nevin> (setq 
Nevin>       gnus-secondary-select-methods
Nevin>       '((nnml ""))			; Incoming Mail
Nevin>       nnml-get-new-mail t
Nevin>       mail-sources
Nevin>       '((directory
Nevin> 	 :path "~/.spool/"
Nevin> 	 :suffix "")))

NP> My mailing lists are spooled into ~/incoming/ and have extensions
NP> like 'list.gnus.spool'.

And here's mine.  I'm not sure now why I needed the "don't look at
empty files" predicate (but I do recall going to great pains to insert
it for some reason).  But it's here:

(setq
 mail-sources '((directory
		 :path "~/.incoming/"
		 :predicate (lambda (f)
			      (not (zerop (nth 7 (file-attributes f)))))
		 )) ; terry gnus
 mail-source-delete-incoming t		; terry gnus
)

For nnml:FOO, I have my incoming handler drop it into ~/.incoming/FOO.spool

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