Announce: Sending message/partial

Announce: Sending message/partial

[Shenghuo ZHU]

Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?

Currently, the default value is nil, which means no limit.

,--------
| message-send-mail-partially-limit's value is 
| 50000
| 
| Documentation:
| The limitation of messages sent as message/partial.
| The lower bound of message size in characters, beyond which the message 
| should be sent in several parts. *Nil means unlimited.
`--------


-- 
Shenghuo

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Alan Shutko]

Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
> by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?

I think that, since most mailers can't handle message/partial (and
when I was on TM and SEMI lists, the question how to turn splitting
off always came up), the default should be unlimited.

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Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Colin Rafferty]

Shenghuo ZHU writes:

> Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
> by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?

Personally, I think it ought to be nil, but we don't live in a perfect
world.

I would say make it as large as the major MTAs and MUAs can handle.
It should certainly be no smaller that 1mB.

-- 
Colin

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Shenghuo ZHU]

>>>>> "Alan" == Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:

Alan> Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:
>> Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
>> by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?

Alan> I think that, since most mailers can't handle message/partial
Alan> (and when I was on TM and SEMI lists, the question how to turn
Alan> splitting off always came up), the default should be unlimited.

IIRC, TM sends message/partial without asking user.  In my implement,
the user have to confirm it if a message size is large than the limit.

-- 
Shenghuo

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Shenghuo ZHU]

>>>>> ">" == Colin Rafferty <colin.rafferty@msdw.com> writes:

>> Shenghuo ZHU writes:
>> Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
>> by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?

>> Personally, I think it ought to be nil, but we don't live in a
>> perfect world.

>> I would say make it as large as the major MTAs and MUAs can handle.
>> It should certainly be no smaller that 1mB.

So I am going to set it to 1000000.  Anyway, it is just an advisory
value. Gnus won't split it without your confirmation.

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Shenghuo

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Jari Aalto+mail.emacs]

* 2000-04-27 Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> list.emacs-ding
* Message-Id: <5bk8hj5ng5.fsf@milli.cs.rochester.edu>
| Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
| by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?
| 
| Currently, the default value is nil, which means no limit.

Please also add a command to turn on / off message sending feature and
provide a small modeline indication when message is about
to send as "partial".

jari

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Shenghuo ZHU]

posting-list@MailAndNews.com (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) writes:

> * 2000-04-27 Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> list.emacs-ding
> * Message-Id: <5bk8hj5ng5.fsf@milli.cs.rochester.edu>
> | Gnus is able to send a large message in parts. The limit is controlled
> | by message-send-mail-partially-limit. What is the reasonable limit?
> | 
> | Currently, the default value is nil, which means no limit.
> 
> Please also add a command to turn on / off message sending feature
> and provide a small modeline indication when message is about to
> send as "partial".

Whether the message is sent as "partial" depends on the size of
encoded message.  It is impossible (at least unlikely) to indicate it
when you are editing the message.

Adding a command to turn on/off the feature is not necessary, because
you will be asked to confirm to send a very large message in
message/partial (TM don't ask).

Shenghuo

Re: Announce: Sending message/partial

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> > | Gnus is able to send a large message in parts.

Cool!

> Adding a command to turn on/off the feature is not necessary, because
> you will be asked to confirm to send a very large message in
> message/partial (TM don't ask).

Yup; seems reasonable to me.

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