* Unable to use gnus on a nox build
@ 2010-10-26 8:29 James Cloos
2010-10-27 7:01 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2010-10-26 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
I occasionally run gnus on a remote server. That server runs debian and
the emacs-snapshot-nox package from http://emacs.orebokech.com.
Gnus there is as merged to emacs' trunk branch.
The current snapshot version is emacs-snapshot-nox_20101024-1_i386.deb.
Gnus on that version fails because the variables image-checkbox-checked &
image-checkbox-checked do not exist, emacs having been built w/o a gui.
I added a pair of setq-defaults to .emacs there, setting those two vars
to nil, to try to get gnus to start.
But that fails with:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable image-load-path)
image-search-load-path("gnus/toggle-subscription.xpm")
gmm-image-load-path-for-library("gnus" "gnus/toggle-subscription.xpm" nil t)
gnus-group-make-tool-bar()
gnus-group-mode()
gnus-group-setup-buffer()
gnus-group-list-groups(nil)
byte-code("^H\204^N^@ \204^N^@\306 \210\202Q^@\307\310!\210\311\n!^S\f\204^^^@^M\203!^@\312 \$
gnus-1(nil nil nil)
gnus(nil)
call-interactively(gnus t nil)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
Gnus shouldn't screw around with toolbars on a nox emacs build.
Toolbar is not an option for gnus-visual, so that won't disable them.
And I do not see anything else in gnus' customize which might be
relevant.
Is there an option I'm missing?
This bug showed up in the previous emacs-snapshot; I wanted to check
whether it persisted to a second snapshot before reporting it.
(I might add that I do not want or use toolbars or menus in my gui
sessions either; there I use Xdefaults to disable them.)
-JimC
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-26 8:29 Unable to use gnus on a nox build James Cloos
@ 2010-10-27 7:01 ` Reiner Steib
2010-10-28 17:12 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2010-10-27 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, Oct 26 2010, James Cloos wrote:
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable image-load-path)
> image-search-load-path("gnus/toggle-subscription.xpm")
> gmm-image-load-path-for-library("gnus" "gnus/toggle-subscription.xpm" nil t)
> gnus-group-make-tool-bar()
> gnus-group-mode()
> gnus-group-setup-buffer()
> gnus-group-list-groups(nil)
> [...]
> Gnus shouldn't screw around with toolbars on a nox emacs build.
,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69943/focus=69946 ]
| `gmm-image-load-path-for-library' in `gnus-group-make-tool-bar' is
| called only if `tool-bar-mode' is non-nil:
|
| (when (and (not (featurep 'xemacs))
| (boundp 'tool-bar-mode)
| tool-bar-mode
| ;; The Gnus 5.10.6 code checked (default-value 'tool-bar-mode).
| ;; Why? --rsteib
| (or (not gnus-group-tool-bar-map) force))
|
| When I start "emacs -nw -Q", `tool-bar-mode' is nil. Please show the
| output of `<f1> v tool-bar-mode RET'.
`----
The OP replied:
,----
| I did have a (setq tool-bar-mode -1) in my .emacs. Changing the -1 to
| nil fixed the problem. Sorry for the noise.
`----
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-27 7:01 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2010-10-28 17:12 ` James Cloos
2010-10-29 6:26 ` Reiner Steib
2010-10-29 9:59 ` Julien Danjou
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2010-10-28 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "RS" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
RS> On Tue, Oct 26 2010, James Cloos wrote:
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable image-load-path)
RS> ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69943/focus=69946 ]
RS> The OP replied:
RS> | I did have a (setq tool-bar-mode -1) in my .emacs. Changing the -1 to
RS> | nil fixed the problem. Sorry for the noise.
Adding a (setq tool-bar-mode nil) to .emacs worked.
But that should not be required on a -nox emacs build. It is just silly
that everyone who wants to use gnus on a gui-less build should have to
add that sexp to their .emacs.
And you cannot use the customize interface to do it; customize-variable
does not see it because it is not marked to be customizable unless the
emacs build supports a GUI mode.
-JimC
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-28 17:12 ` James Cloos
@ 2010-10-29 6:26 ` Reiner Steib
2010-10-29 9:59 ` Julien Danjou
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2010-10-29 6:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Thu, Oct 28 2010, James Cloos wrote:
> Adding a (setq tool-bar-mode nil) to .emacs worked.
>
> But that should not be required on a -nox emacs build. It is just silly
> that everyone who wants to use gnus on a gui-less build should have to
> add that sexp to their .emacs.
The code checks if `tool-bar-mode' is bound and non-nil:
| (when (and (not (featurep 'xemacs))
| (boundp 'tool-bar-mode)
| tool-bar-mode
| ;; The Gnus 5.10.6 code checked (default-value 'tool-bar-mode).
| ;; Why? --rsteib
| (or (not gnus-group-tool-bar-map) force))
If `tool-bar-mode' is non-nil in a no-X session, there is something
wrong, I'd say. At least in Emacs 22.1, I have:
,----[ emacs -nw -Q -f ielm ]
| ELISP> tool-bar-mode
| nil
| ELISP> emacs-version
| "22.1.1"
`----
If this has changed in Emacs 24, I'd suggest to report it as a bug
(reproduce the failure and do M-x report-emacs-bug RET).
> And you cannot use the customize interface to do it; customize-variable
> does not see it because it is not marked to be customizable unless the
> emacs build supports a GUI mode.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-28 17:12 ` James Cloos
2010-10-29 6:26 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2010-10-29 9:59 ` Julien Danjou
2010-10-29 19:10 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Julien Danjou @ 2010-10-29 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: ding
On Thu, Oct 28 2010, James Cloos wrote:
> But that should not be required on a -nox emacs build. It is just silly
> that everyone who wants to use gnus on a gui-less build should have to
> add that sexp to their .emacs.
I've pushed a fix.
--
Julien Danjou
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-29 9:59 ` Julien Danjou
@ 2010-10-29 19:10 ` Reiner Steib
2010-10-29 19:20 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2010-10-29 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Cloos; +Cc: ding
On Fri, Oct 29 2010, Julien Danjou wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28 2010, James Cloos wrote:
>
>> But that should not be required on a -nox emacs build. It is just silly
>> that everyone who wants to use gnus on a gui-less build should have to
>> add that sexp to their .emacs.
>
> I've pushed a fix.
,----
| --- a/lisp/gnus-group.el
| +++ b/lisp/gnus-group.el
| @@ -1090,8 +1090,7 @@ When FORCE, rebuild the tool bar."
| (when (and (not (featurep 'xemacs))
| (boundp 'tool-bar-mode)
| tool-bar-mode
| - ;; The Gnus 5.10.6 code checked (default-value 'tool-bar-mode).
| - ;; Why? --rsteib
| + (display-graphic-p)
| (or (not gnus-group-tool-bar-map) force))
| (let* ((load-path
| (gmm-image-load-path-for-library "gnus"
`----
Hm, I think with this check, the failure will be deferred to
`gnus-summary-make-tool-bar' or `message-make-tool-bar' instead.
I still think it is a bug in Emacs 24, because tool-bar-mode should
not be non-nil in this case.
Bye, Reiner.
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,,,
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* Re: Unable to use gnus on a nox build
2010-10-29 19:10 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2010-10-29 19:20 ` James Cloos
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: James Cloos @ 2010-10-29 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "RS" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
RS> Hm, I think with this check, the failure will be deferred to
RS> `gnus-summary-make-tool-bar' or `message-make-tool-bar' instead.
RS> I still think it is a bug in Emacs 24, because tool-bar-mode should
RS> not be non-nil in this case.
The bug report for that is <7299@debbugs.gnu.org>.
-JimC
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