Gnus development mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: Spam spam spam spam spam
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:59:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m38z8am4gw.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3hemym5o4.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Has anybody done any thinking about how to tie Gnus into the various
> spam inhibitants that exist?

Here are my thoughts.  :-)

1) A new splitting rule -- `spam'.  If the message is deemed to be
   spam, it returns "spam".

2) The splitting rule offers lots of (customizable) tests.  For
   instance:

   a) Vipul's Razor (which basically looks at the body and does a
   lookup to see whether somebody else has received the same spam
   before)

   b) ordb and friends (looks at "Received" headers to see whether the
   mail has gone through open relays)

   c) spamcop (basically sees whether somebody has reported that this
   user is a spammer)

   d) A white-list (sees whether you have flagged this as legitimate
   user)

So here would be spam testing rule:

(and (not white-list)
     (or (and ordb spamcom)
         vipul))
   
Both ordb and spamcop have quite a few false positives, but together,
they give pretty good results.  (I've been testing stuff like this
over at Gmane.)

There would be a few new summary mode commands.

1) `y' -- "report this as spam".  This would send the message to a
   user-defined list of spam gatherers, but would typically include
   Razor, ordb, spamcop and spamassassin.  In addition, it could use
   that package that sends a complaint to "postmaster@" all the bits
   in the Received lines.  It would be up to the user.

2) A command to enter into the white-list.  It should be a short
   keystroke -- `M-y', for instance.  This command would put the From
   address of the current message into the white-list, so that the
   spam filter wouldn't classify the next message from this person as
   spam.

People who are absolutely paranoid would just use

(not white-list)

as the spam predicate.  That is, everybody not on the white-list is
classified as spam.

I'm getting fed up with spam, and I think most of us are.  Let's fight
back. 

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen



  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-30 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-30 15:33 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 15:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2002-04-01 14:44   ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-05 20:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 21:41       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-05 22:27         ` Derrell.Lipman
2002-04-09 17:44           ` Toby Speight
2002-04-05 21:42       ` Jon Ericson
2002-04-05 22:59         ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 16:31   ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 19:52     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-02 22:06       ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 19:33         ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-03-30 16:09 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 16:32   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:56     ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:05       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:27         ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-01 14:46       ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-01 15:11         ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:30     ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:34       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:27         ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-31 22:00     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-03-30 16:33   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:43   ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:53     ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:35       ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 17:58         ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 18:29           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:52             ` Harry Putnam
2002-03-30 19:37         ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-03-30 23:46           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  0:38             ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-04-01 14:07               ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-04  3:28                 ` news
2002-03-31  2:07             ` Mark Milhollan
2003-01-01 21:06               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-02 19:02               ` Simon Josefsson
2002-03-30 16:34 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:52     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 17:45     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-03-30 18:29       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 19:28       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  1:39         ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31  1:45           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  1:48             ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31  1:57               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:23                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:20                   ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-03-31 18:19                   ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-02  7:09                     ` Michel Schinz
2002-04-03  5:10                       ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-03 13:50                         ` Frank Schmitt
2002-03-31  1:31 ` Daniel Pittman
2003-01-01 21:05   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:34 ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 15:50   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:06     ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 18:11     ` Russ Allbery
2002-03-31 18:31       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 17:22       ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 19:25         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 19:34           ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 18:22 ` Chris Shenton
2002-04-13 22:49 ` John H Palmieri
2002-04-13 23:00   ` Nevin Kapur
2002-04-14  0:04   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-04-14  0:57   ` Bill White
2002-04-21  3:38   ` Harry Putnam

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m38z8am4gw.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org \
    --to=larsi@gnus.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).