Re: Wanted: Gnus plugin to submit spam to ordb.org

[Ted Zlatanov <teodor.zlatanov@divine.com>]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, prj@po.cwru.edu wrote:
> Ted Zlatanov <teodor.zlatanov@divine.com> wrote:
>> My major concern (and the reason why I haven't been doing too much
>> work on this) is that generally, in Gnus marks do not trigger
>> actions directly.
> 
> The 'expire mark does, sort of.  But if you'd like to avoid that, a
> function could be added to gnus-summary-exit-hook to look for
> articles with the spam mark and report them.  This isn't too great a
> one-time burden for the users, is it?

On the contrary, as I said, I think it makes perfect sense :) My only
concern was that other Gnus users would think it strange that marking
an article suddenly takes a few seconds and actually performs an
action.  From the lack of an outcry, and from yours and Kai's
comments, I guess everyone is OK with having the 'spam' mark trigger
the spam actions.

OK, for the plan of action.  Note that this is very general at this
point, I'm looking to define what's needed.  Variable names are
definitely subject to change - suggestions are welcome.  Ditto for
invocation methods.

Let's define spam checking and reporting backends.  Right now we
have blacklists, whitelists, and spam-blackhole-servers:

(defvar spam-blackhole-servers
  '("bl.spamcop.net" "relays.ordb.org" "dev.null.dk"
    "relays.visi.com" "rbl.maps.vix.com"))

I'd like to break the blackhole servers into individual symbols.  The
users would say something like:

(add-to-list spam-checking-backends 'spamcop)
(add-to-list spam-checking-backends 'ordb)
(add-to-list spam-checking-backends 'blacklist)
(add-to-list spam-checking-backends 'whitelist) ; scores everything but whitelisted senders down 1000, for instance

and then they would add the spam-check function to their nnml-split or
nnimap-split.  So we'll have spamcop, ordb, dev-null-dk, visi, vix.
Or should this be a generic 'blackhole symbol which uses the list of
blackhole servers?  How likely is the list of blackhole servers to
change or need modification by the user?

Should the split function just score things down or actually move them
to a "spam" forlder?

The spam-reporting-backends would be triggered (as a hook) by marking
an article as spam.  The user would do:
(add-to-list spam-reporting-backends 'blacklist)
(add-to-list spam-reporting-backends 'ordb)

I need lists of reporting and checking backends that don't follow the
blackhole-servers conventions (using DNS for checks).  See spam.el for
what's already in place for blackhole checks.

Thanks
Ted