* POP3 - long mails
@ 1997-05-06 10:09 David Hedbor
1997-05-06 14:22 ` William M. Perry
1997-05-06 16:33 ` POP3 - long mails Stainless Steel Rat
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: David Hedbor @ 1997-05-06 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello!
I recently started using Gnus for mail and news reading (a big step up
from Netscape!), and I have a small suggestion. As I tend to get mails
with large binary attachments (> 2MB) and only have a modem
connection, I want the option not to get these mails (which I don't
need on my side of the modem anyway). To accomplish this, I hacked a
small movemail-replacement, which asks me whether or not I want to
download a large message (I also have the option to download the first
X lines). Until a few minutes ago, I didn't know that pop3.el existed.
I think a couple of vars in pop3.el - one with max length and one with
the default action (nil - ignore, t or ask - ask the user whether to
download or not, or # - only download the first # lines). My elisp
knowledge is unfortunately limited to editing my .emacs and .gnus
files, so I couldn't do it myself.
What do you think? Is this something that might be useful for the
general public?
--
David Hedbor david@hedbor.org http://david.hedbor.org/
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* Re: POP3 - long mails
1997-05-06 10:09 POP3 - long mails David Hedbor
@ 1997-05-06 14:22 ` William M. Perry
1997-05-09 17:40 ` VM pop, XEmacs, and Gnus (Was: POP3 - ...) Steinar Bang
1997-05-06 16:33 ` POP3 - long mails Stainless Steel Rat
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: William M. Perry @ 1997-05-06 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
David Hedbor <david@hedbor.org> writes:
> Hello!
>
> I recently started using Gnus for mail and news reading (a big step up
> from Netscape!), and I have a small suggestion. As I tend to get mails
> with large binary attachments (> 2MB) and only have a modem connection, I
> want the option not to get these mails (which I don't need on my side of
> the modem anyway). To accomplish this, I hacked a small
> movemail-replacement, which asks me whether or not I want to download a
> large message (I also have the option to download the first X
> lines). Until a few minutes ago, I didn't know that pop3.el existed.
>
> I think a couple of vars in pop3.el - one with max length and one with
> the default action (nil - ignore, t or ask - ask the user whether to
> download or not, or # - only download the first # lines). My elisp
> knowledge is unfortunately limited to editing my .emacs and .gnus files,
> so I couldn't do it myself.
>
> What do you think? Is this something that might be useful for the general
> public?
Yes, this would be very nice. VM's pop support allows you to do this. I
suggest meditating upon it for a while to get ideas for features if you go
hacking upon pop3.el
Since I have plenty of memory on all my machines, I just load VM and use
its pop retrieval stuff, like so:
(setq vm-pop-max-message-size 21000
nnmail-movemail-program 'my-movemail)
(defun my-movemail (inbox crashbox)
(require 'vm)
(vm-pop-move-mail "aventail.com:110:pass:wmperry:*" crashbox)
(vm-pop-move-mail "oz.net:110:pass:wmperry:*" crashbox))
-Bill P.
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* Re: POP3 - long mails
1997-05-06 10:09 POP3 - long mails David Hedbor
1997-05-06 14:22 ` William M. Perry
@ 1997-05-06 16:33 ` Stainless Steel Rat
1997-05-06 19:05 ` David Hedbor
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stainless Steel Rat @ 1997-05-06 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>>> "DH" == David Hedbor <david@hedbor.org> writes:
DH> What do you think? Is this something that might be useful for the
DH> general public?
I think if you want to write your own movemail function, be my guest. That
is beyond the scope of pop3, which is nothing more than a POP3 interface.
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* Re: POP3 - long mails
1997-05-06 16:33 ` POP3 - long mails Stainless Steel Rat
@ 1997-05-06 19:05 ` David Hedbor
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: David Hedbor @ 1997-05-06 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
>
> I think if you want to write your own movemail function, be my guest. That
> is beyond the scope of pop3, which is nothing more than a POP3 interface.
No offense here, but since when isn't LIST and TOP part of POP3? Seems
like the VM-people know better. And just because you might not have
any use for it doesn't mean that the rest of the world won't.
I would hope that if I managed to make a working patch for it, it
would be included in the dist.
--
David Hedbor david@hedbor.org http://david.hedbor.org/
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* VM pop, XEmacs, and Gnus (Was: POP3 - ...)
1997-05-06 14:22 ` William M. Perry
@ 1997-05-09 17:40 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 1997-05-09 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry):
> Since I have plenty of memory on all my machines, I just load VM and
> use its pop retrieval stuff, like so:
> (setq vm-pop-max-message-size 21000
> nnmail-movemail-program 'my-movemail)
> (defun my-movemail (inbox crashbox)
> (require 'vm)
> (vm-pop-move-mail "aventail.com:110:pass:wmperry:*" crashbox)
> (vm-pop-move-mail "oz.net:110:pass:wmperry:*" crashbox))
Hm... is this all that's required? I tried compiling this on both GNU
emacs, and XEmacs, and both places, I've gotten the message:
** the function vm-pop-move-mail is not known to be defined.
both places, when byte compiling the .gnus.el file.
The VM directory, is in load-path. I've also tried using
(require 'vm-pop)
with the same response when byte compiling.
The reason I'm doing this, is that I haven't been able to run movemail
with POP, on XEmacs, and since I run demonical mail fetch, I can't use
pop3.el, because it asks for the password each time it fetches the
mail (or can I...? How does this apop stuff work? Does it negotiate a
session key? I think not, if I remember correctly, from the POP3 RFC.
Will I have to maintain a list of clear text "secrets" on the POP3
server, to use APOP?
(But for the time being, I'm back to Gnus in GNU Emacs 19.34, which
works fine, with movemail/POP, and demonical mail fetch. I just want
better support for richer mail content (inline images, and the like))
- Steinar
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