* Stumbled into bug in Make group process
@ 2000-04-21 0:01 Harry Putnam
2000-04-21 11:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-04-21 0:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Running CVS 5.8.4 several weeks old
fsf emacs-20.5
While making groups in gnus I've stumbled onto a small bug or at least
something that seems it should behave differently:
To reproduce try this:
In group buffer use `G f' (nndoc) to make a spool style group of a
spool file. In my case I used /var/spool/mail/reader
Access the group then `M P a' to process mark it all.
Then `B c' to copy messages to a new gnus-owned nnfolder group.
That is: Answer the gnus prompt as to group name with:
nnfolder:NEWGROUP
Then press "F".. Gnus displays an inaccessable *"nnml"* group
(nnml:NEWGROUP).
To get the nnfolder group I requested to display I had to:
`G m' NEWGROUP <RET>
Backend? nnfolder <RET>
And "nnfolder:NEWGROUP" is displayed.
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 0:01 Stumbled into bug in Make group process Harry Putnam
@ 2000-04-21 11:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-04-21 13:09 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-04-21 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Then `B c' to copy messages to a new gnus-owned nnfolder group.
>
> That is: Answer the gnus prompt as to group name with:
>
> nnfolder:NEWGROUP
>
> Then press "F".. Gnus displays an inaccessable *"nnml"* group
> (nnml:NEWGROUP).
I'm unable to reproduce this. Gnus creates an nnfolder group when I
do this...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 11:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2000-04-21 13:09 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-21 13:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-04-21 21:16 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-04-21 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > Then `B c' to copy messages to a new gnus-owned nnfolder group.
> >
> > That is: Answer the gnus prompt as to group name with:
> >
> > nnfolder:NEWGROUP
> >
> > Then press "F".. Gnus displays an inaccessable *"nnml"* group
> > (nnml:NEWGROUP).
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this. Gnus creates an nnfolder group when I
> do this...
It does here too... but diplays a fictitious nnml group of the same
name, instead of displaying the nnfolder group. The nnfolder group is
in fact created, but will only display by 'G m' NEWGROUP <RET> nnfolder <RET>.
I have (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "")))
Will that cause the above reported behavior? Should that be a list
that includes "nnfolder".... what is the syntax?
What other setting may affect this?
I have two more nnml servers that are only declared in Server Buffer
not in .gnus.
So in .gnus I have nnml ""
in Server buffer:
nnml ""
nnml "mail2"
nnml "n2m"
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 13:09 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-04-21 13:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2000-04-22 12:44 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-21 21:16 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-04-21 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> It does here too... but diplays a fictitious nnml group of the same
> name, instead of displaying the nnfolder group.
This sounds like you have an nnml server and a nnfolder server that
share the same active file, which is broken.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 13:09 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-21 13:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2000-04-21 21:16 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-04-22 5:13 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-22 12:40 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-04-21 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> So in .gnus I have nnml ""
>
> in Server buffer:
>
> nnml ""
> nnml "mail2"
> nnml "n2m"
How can you copy messages to an nnfolder server that doesn't exist?
Hm. Or does the server buffer contain more servers than you show here?
kai
--
Beware of flying birch trees.
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 21:16 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-04-22 5:13 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-22 12:40 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-04-22 5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > So in .gnus I have nnml ""
> >
> > in Server buffer:
> >
> > nnml ""
> > nnml "mail2"
> > nnml "n2m"
>
> How can you copy messages to an nnfolder server that doesn't exist?
> Hm. Or does the server buffer contain more servers than you show here?
Yes...
{nnfolder:archive} (opened)
{nnml:mail2} (opened)
{nnml:n2m} (opened)
{nndir:~/spool/backup/} (opened)
{nndir:~/spool/ping/} (opened)
{nndraft:} (opened)
{nnml:} (opened)
{nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened)
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 21:16 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-04-22 5:13 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-04-22 12:40 ` Harry Putnam
2000-04-22 15:13 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-04-22 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > So in .gnus I have nnml ""
> >
> > in Server buffer:
> >
> > nnml ""
> > nnml "mail2"
> > nnml "n2m"
>
> How can you copy messages to an nnfolder server that doesn't exist?
> Hm. Or does the server buffer contain more servers than you show here?
Kai, as you often do, you've nailed the mistake I was making: I do
have an nnfolder server as posted in reply to your question:
{nnfolder:archive} (opened)
{nnml:mail2} (opened)
{nnml:n2m} (opened)
{nndir:~/spool/backup/} (opened)
{nndir:~/spool/ping/} (opened)
{nndraft:} (opened)
{nnml:} (opened)
{nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened)
My mistake was copying mail to an (as yet unformed) group called
nnfolder:NEWGROUP.
I should have been sending to the proper server by copying to:
nnfolder+archive:NEWGROUP.
That works as expected.
Sorry about the static bandwidth...
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-21 13:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2000-04-22 12:44 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-04-22 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > It does here too... but diplays a fictitious nnml group of the same
> > name, instead of displaying the nnfolder group.
>
> This sounds like you have an nnml server and a nnfolder server that
> share the same active file, which is broken.
Good guess... that was it. Also my nnfolder server is nnfolder+archive:
So I was sending to a non-existent nnfolder server called nnfolder:NEWGROUP
Instead of nnfolder+archive:NEWGROUP. Thanks for the tips. The later
keeps the active files in order.
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-22 12:40 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-04-22 15:13 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-04-22 18:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-04-22 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> My mistake was copying mail to an (as yet unformed) group called
> nnfolder:NEWGROUP.
I wouldn't say it's a mistake. IMVHO, Gnus should prevent you from
copying to a non-existing server.
It's nice that Gnus creates non-existing groups for you, but I think
this is not necessary for non-existing servers.
Lars?
kai
--
Beware of flying birch trees.
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* Re: Stumbled into bug in Make group process
2000-04-22 15:13 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2000-04-22 18:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-04-22 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> It's nice that Gnus creates non-existing groups for you, but I think
> this is not necessary for non-existing servers.
Yes, I agree that that's a bug.
*ducks*
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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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