* Gnus deja interface
@ 2000-03-05 14:22 Harry Putnam
2000-03-05 14:47 ` Bud Rogers
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-03-05 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Has something recent happened at Deja.com that is starting to break
our Gnus `G w'.
With a simple query like: pc-buf
I suddenly get:
Contacting www.deja.com:80
Loading url-gw...
Loading url-gw...done
Reading [text/html]... 1k
Retrieval complete.
Mark set
Loading url-file...
Loading url-file...done
Mark set
Loading w3-hot...
Loading w3-hot...done
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 20% of 6646...
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 39% of 6646...
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 56% of 6646...
Parsed 66% of 6646...
Parsed 77% of 6646...
Parsed 88% of 6646...
Parsed 100% of 6646...done
Lisp nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth
Or is gnus stumbling on a specific URL only?
I did get an announcement from Deja.com a few day ago announcing some
changes. Geez I hope its easy to fix...
The query: cylcebuffer ... works as expected
The query ~g gnu.emacs.sources cyclebuffer causes the nesting error
I'm pretty sure I've been using Deja style search operators in the past.
It also seems that any query using "dejanewsold"
Returns this same hit:
1 31-Dec [ 0: ] verdana (My Deja)
That contains:
<html>
<head>
<title>Deja.com: 404 Error</title>
The other selection "alta vista" and "reference.com" return
"Couldn't request group: No matching articles"
On this query: tripwire ... a known subject in many linux and unix groups
However the query: ~g comp.os.linux.security tripwire (against
dejanews) works as expected.
Then again the query: ~g gnu.emacs.sources cyclebuffer.el
Blows up with nesting error again.
There seems no consistency to this.
I haven't cvs'ed for a couple weeks so that isn't the source.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 14:22 Gnus deja interface Harry Putnam
@ 2000-03-05 14:47 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-05 15:09 ` Harry Putnam
2000-03-07 7:48 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 2000-03-05 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Has something recent happened at Deja.com that is starting to break
> our Gnus `G w'.
Wow. How long has that been in there?? Another marvelous toy I didn't
know about.
> With a simple query like: pc-buf
> I suddenly get:
>
> Contacting www.deja.com:80
[...]
> Parsed 100% of 6646...done
> Lisp nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth
Using the same query I got 'Couldn't request group: No matching articles.'
Which I'm not sure I believe, but the connection to deja and the search
seemed to work OK. At least AFAICT reading the sequence of events as it
scrolled by in the minibuffer. How did you capture the minibuffer output
like that?
--
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
Though all my neighbors are barbarians, and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 14:47 ` Bud Rogers
@ 2000-03-05 15:09 ` Harry Putnam
2000-03-05 15:36 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-05 16:11 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-07 7:48 ` Steinar Bang
1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-03-05 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > Has something recent happened at Deja.com that is starting to break
> > our Gnus `G w'.
>
> Wow. How long has that been in there?? Another marvelous toy I didn't
> know about.
>
> > With a simple query like: pc-buf
> > I suddenly get:
> >
> > Contacting www.deja.com:80
>
> [...]
>
> > Parsed 100% of 6646...done
> > Lisp nesting exceeds max-lisp-eval-depth
>
> Using the same query I got 'Couldn't request group: No matching articles.'
Are you sure you used the exact same query against dejanews?
pc-buf
Trying here a few more times I still get the nesting error.
> Which I'm not sure I believe, but the connection to deja and the search
> seemed to work OK. At least AFAICT reading the sequence of events as it
> scrolled by in the minibuffer. How did you capture the minibuffer output
> like that?
Capturing the minibuffer output is an ancient yet secret trick known
only to 3 people in the world. So after I tell you, you can expect
the black helicopters in a day or two.
After the messages scroll by, press C-x b *M<SPC> <RET> To see the
*Messages* buffer. Gnus will probably remove the asterisks and
boldify the words they surround so to see what needs to be typed press
C-u g on this message to see the raw message.
Or C-x b <asterisk>M<SPC> <RET> to see
<asterisk>Messages<asterisk> buffer.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 15:09 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-03-05 15:36 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-05 16:11 ` Bud Rogers
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 2000-03-05 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > Using the same query I got 'Couldn't request group: No matching articles.'
>
> Are you sure you used the exact same query against dejanews?
> pc-buf
>
> Trying here a few more times I still get the nesting error.
Yes, I used the exact same query, pc-buf. I also tried 'reference' with
same result -- no matching articles.
> Capturing the minibuffer output is an ancient yet secret trick known
> only to 3 people in the world. So after I tell you, you can expect
> the black helicopters in a day or two.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll hide all my tactical stuff immediately. :}
--
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
Though all my neighbors are barbarians, and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 15:09 ` Harry Putnam
2000-03-05 15:36 ` Bud Rogers
@ 2000-03-05 16:11 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-05 16:53 ` Harry Putnam
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 2000-03-05 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> Are you sure you used the exact same query against dejanews?
> pc-buf
>
> Trying here a few more times I still get the nesting error.
>
> > Which I'm not sure I believe, but the connection to deja and the search
> > seemed to work OK. At least AFAICT reading the sequence of events as it
> > scrolled by in the minibuffer. How did you capture the minibuffer output
> > like that?
>
> Capturing the minibuffer output is an ancient yet secret trick known
> only to 3 people in the world. So after I tell you, you can expect
> the black helicopters in a day or two.
>
> After the messages scroll by, press C-x b *M<SPC> <RET> To see the
> *Messages* buffer. Gnus will probably remove the asterisks and
> boldify the words they surround so to see what needs to be typed press
> C-u g on this message to see the raw message.
>
> Or C-x b <asterisk>M<SPC> <RET> to see
> <asterisk>Messages<asterisk> buffer.
Request sent, waiting for response...
Reading [text/html]... 501 bytes
Reading [text/html]... 2k
Retrieval complete.
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 20% of 6646...
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 39% of 6646...
Unknown URL scheme: nil
Parsed 56% of 6646...
Parsed 66% of 6646...
Parsed 77% of 6646...
Parsed 88% of 6646...
Parsed 100% of 6646...done
No matching articles
Couldn't request group: No matching articles
There was a lot more in the buffer, but I think this is the relevant
portion. Thanks for another shiny addition to my toolbox.
--
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
Though all my neighbors are barbarians, and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 16:11 ` Bud Rogers
@ 2000-03-05 16:53 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2000-03-05 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> writes:
> Request sent, waiting for response...
[...]
> Parsed 100% of 6646...done
> No matching articles
> Couldn't request group: No matching articles
I just noticed that you are using Xemacs and gnus 5.8.3 where as, I am
using fsf emacs and gnus 5.8.4 (2wks? old cvs)
Maybe that is why the query pc-buf gets different results on our
setups.
I did find some of the problem I was having with Deja style queries
using the Deja operators like ( ~ tilde). So will embarrassedly
report the error:
Using the ~g operator to signifiy that the next string is a group name
and then a keyword `~g comp.unix.security tripwire' *IS* working here
What I did in this case was inadvertantly leave out the "g"!
~gnu.emacs.sources switch buffer instead of:
~g gnu.emacs.sources swithch buffer
Sort of easy to overlook. (my only excuse..)
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-05 14:47 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-05 15:09 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2000-03-07 7:48 ` Steinar Bang
2000-03-07 12:14 ` Bud Rogers
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2000-03-07 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net>:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>> Has something recent happened at Deja.com that is starting to break
>> our Gnus `G w'.
> Wow. How long has that been in there?? Another marvelous toy I
> didn't know about.
Quite some time, I think. But it didn't work for a while, because the
Deja people changed their HTML format.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-07 7:48 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2000-03-07 12:14 ` Bud Rogers
2000-03-07 16:36 ` Alan Shutko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 2000-03-07 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
> >>>>> Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net>:
>
> > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> >> Has something recent happened at Deja.com that is starting to break
> >> our Gnus `G w'.
>
> > Wow. How long has that been in there?? Another marvelous toy I
> > didn't know about.
>
> Quite some time, I think. But it didn't work for a while, because the
> Deja people changed their HTML format.
Seems to be working now. Last night I spent an hour or so researching 100
Mbps network cards and Linux. Sooo much nicer than wading through deja's
website. They have a valuable resource there, but the interface is horrid.
Ah, the joy of gnus. About once a week I get another pleasant surprise.
--
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html
Though all my neighbors are barbarians, and you are a thousand miles away,
there are always two cups on my table.
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* Re: Gnus deja interface
2000-03-07 12:14 ` Bud Rogers
@ 2000-03-07 16:36 ` Alan Shutko
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Alan Shutko @ 2000-03-07 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> writes:
> Seems to be working now. Last night I spent an hour or so researching 100
> Mbps network cards and Linux. Sooo much nicer than wading through deja's
> website. They have a valuable resource there, but the interface is horrid.
And keeps getting worse. Now you can't search usenet from the top
page. Geeez.....
--
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors!
248 days, 22 hours, 58 minutes, 28 seconds till we run away.
The worst is enemy of the bad.
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