Re: Re[2]: 8-bit headers not encoded

[Vladimir Volovich <vvv@vvv.vsu.ru>]

"FW" == Florian Weimer writes:

 >> Then, 8-bit cyrillic text in subject was sent as 8-bit, but NOT in
 >> koi8-r; it was in iso-8859-5 encoding. what should i do to make
 >> gnus use koi8-r for 8-bit text in headers?

 FW> Okay, I'll try to fix it as soon as I find some time
 FW> (unfortunately, that's a big problem at the moment...).  In the
 FW> meantime, could you resist to set this variable at all?

well, when posting to some newsgroups, i need to use 8-bit koi8-r
encoded text in headers (e.g. subject) because otherwise cyrillic text
will be messed up when gatewaying them e.g. to FidoNet.

so, i do need this feature :-) (meanwhile, i could use gnus 5.8.2)

 FW> The default value seems to work correctly (it uses
 FW> quoted-printable in the header).

to be pedantic, gnus uses for iso-8859-5 not quoted-printable, but `b'
type encoded-word (which is closer to base64 than to quoted-printable).

 FW> BTW, do you specify `iso-8859-5' somewhere as default?

Not much, but i wish i had a possibility to specify preferable
cyrillic charsets for message body on a per-group basis. currently,
gnus insists on using a charset which is defined in a line like

(put-charset-property 'cyrillic-iso8859-5 'preferred-coding-system 'koi8-r)

for all cyrillic postings. I'd like to be able to specify a preferred
cyrillic charset on a per-group basis (e.g. like
gnus-group-posting-charset-alist). this would be useful not only for
cyrillic, but also for other languages which have several popular
charsets in use. for russian, we have at least five charsets: koi8-r,
windows-1251, cp866, mac-cyrillic, iso-8859-5 (there are even more of
them: e.g. cp855; the total number of variants is more than 20
different 8-bit cyrillic charsets!).

then one may wish to use by default, say, a windows-1251 charset for
some newsgroups, and koi8-r otherwise, etc...

for european latin-based languages, there are also several charsets in
use (e.g., ISO latin-N charsets and windows codepages)...

 FW> I wonder where that charset is coming from.

it is coming from ISO. :-) It was once a russian state standard
GOST19768-74, but later, koi8-r (and in some areas, cp866, and then
cp1251) was adopted as a de-facto standard.

	Best regards, -- Vladimir.