can't start pgnus 0.75

can't start pgnus 0.75

[hubert.fauque]

I have tried to use pgnus 0.75; the compilation
was OK but when I start gnus it hangs with the
following message (and Backtrace):

Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp procmail)
  nnmail-get-new-mail(nnfolder #[nil "\b\x19Š	…=
  nnfolder-request-scan(nil "")
  gnus-request-scan(nil (nnfolder ""))
  gnus-read-active-file(nil nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code("\b„\x0e
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
* call-interactively(execute-extended-command)


any idea of what I did wrong?

thanks

Hubert
hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr writes:

> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp procmail)

What is your nnmail-spool-file variable?

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Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Stephen Zander]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

    Lars> hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr writes:
    >> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp procmail)

    Lars> What is your nnmail-spool-file variable?

He won't have one set.  This is the backtrace I fleetingly refered to
in my message about non-retrieval of pre-split mail.

-- 
Stephen
---
It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy.  :-) -- Larry Wall

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stephen Zander <gibreel@pobox.com> writes:

>     Lars> What is your nnmail-spool-file variable?
> 
> He won't have one set.  This is the backtrace I fleetingly refered to
> in my message about non-retrieval of pre-split mail.

I don't follow.  If nnmail-spool-file is nil, then no mail fetching
will be done.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[hubert.fauque]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:


> > Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp procmail)
> 
> What is your nnmail-spool-file variable?

thanks for your answer;
yes that was the problem; I hadn't seen that the
nnmail-spool-file variable had changed; 
it was set to procmail;
when setting it to
'((directory :path "/home/hubert/.mailspool" :suffix ""))
it works; well almost, because I have another problem:
In the group buffer, and when I hit Space to enter a group
I get the error:

Signaling: (void-function gnus-truncate-string) (backtrace below)

That seems strange because I have seen that gnus-truncate-string
has disappeared from gnus; I supposed that it was loaded by an old 
version of gnus; I tried to start emacs with a minimum EMACSLOADPATH
(/usr/share/emacs/20.3/lisp and I removed the old gnus directory
which was in it), no init file (-q), I just eval the following expressions
in the *scratch* buffer:

(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/src/pgnus-0.75/lisp") load-path))
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "localhost"))
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnfolder "")))
(setq nnmail-spool-file '((directory :path "/home/hubert/.mailspool"
				    :suffix "")))
(setq nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/")

and I do M-x gnus and I still get this error;

by grepping through the load-path directory I have seen there is *no*
gnus-truncate-string anywhere;

I have spent two hours with this and have no idea where it can come from;

Hubert


Backtrace:



  (gnus-truncate-string gnus-tmp-name 20)
  (if (> (string-width gnus-tmp-name) 20) (gnus-truncate-string gnus-tmp-name 20) gnus-tmp-name)
  (format "%c%4d: %-20s%c" gnus-tmp-opening-bracket gnus-tmp-lines (if (> ... 20) (gnus-truncate-string gnus-tmp-name 20) gnus-tmp-name) gnus-tmp-closing-bracket)
  (insert (format "%c%4d: %-20s%c" gnus-tmp-opening-bracket gnus-tmp-lines (if ... ... gnus-tmp-name) gnus-tmp-closing-bracket))
  (progn (insert (format "%c%4d: %-20s%c" gnus-tmp-opening-bracket gnus-tmp-lines ... gnus-tmp-closing-bracket)) (point))
  (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert ...) (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face)
  (progn (insert gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied gnus-tmp-score-char gnus-tmp-indentation) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn ... ...) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil "\n"))
  eval((progn (insert gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied gnus-tmp-score-char gnus-tmp-indentation) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn ... ...) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil "\n")))
  gnus-summary-prepare-threads((([5 "Re: minicom config" "hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr" "03 Feb 1999 14:55:06 +0100" "<87lnifiocl.fsf@debian.castelnau.fr>" "<36B72CDF.6D3E4387@binary.net> <87k8xzvk4e.fsf@psyche.evansnet> <19990203132236.B389@achc.demon.co.uk>" 0 18 "debian.castelnau.fr post-mail.1999-02:5" nil]) ([6 "can't start pgnus 0.75" "hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr" "03 Feb 1999 15:29:08 +0100" "<87679j4l3f.fsf@debian.castelnau.fr>" nil 0 37 "debian.castelnau.fr post-mail.1999-02:6" nil]) ([7 "Re: Bibliographie" "hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr" "03 Feb 1999 15:31:57 +0100" "<873e4n4kyq.fsf@debian.castelnau.fr>" "<36B85123.3240@inf.enst.fr>" 0 25 "debian.castelnau.fr post-mail.1999-02:7" nil])))
  gnus-summary-prepare()
q  gnus-summary-read-group-1("nnfolder+archive:post-mail.1999-02" nil nil nil nil nil)
  gnus-summary-read-group("nnfolder+archive:post-mail.1999-02" nil nil nil nil nil nil)
  gnus-group-read-group(nil)
* call-interactively(gnus-group-read-group)

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Stephen Zander]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
    Lars> I don't follow.  If nnmail-spool-file is nil, then no mail
    Lars> fetching will be done.

D'oh.  Sorry, I'm stupid. As Hubert has already mentioned it was set
to 'procmail.  

As this is little to be a (relatively ?) coomon error, should
nnmail.el have a more graceful failure mode for this?
 
-- 
Stephen
---
It should be illegal to yell "Y2K" in a crowded economy.  :-) -- Larry Wall

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stephen Zander <gibreel@pobox.com> writes:

> D'oh.  Sorry, I'm stupid. As Hubert has already mentioned it was set
> to 'procmail.  
> 
> As this is little to be a (relatively ?) coomon error, should
> nnmail.el have a more graceful failure mode for this?

I've now made it message a warning, but since all the procmail
variables are gone now, it's difficult to be backwards-compatible
here. 

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: can't start pgnus 0.75

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

hubert.fauque@wanadoo.fr writes:

> I get the error:
> 
> Signaling: (void-function gnus-truncate-string) (backtrace below)

Does your .newsrs.eld file contain this, by any chance?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen