* Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04.
@ 2002-01-03 11:13 Karra
2002-01-05 16:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Karra @ 2002-01-03 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
On upgrading, I found that the read marks are all gone. I believe I
read another report on this before. But the wierdness does not end
there. Let me explain:
(a) I installed 0.04 and started emacs. I started gnus with M-x
gnus-unpluged RET
(b) A gory sight greeted me --- a gazillion unread messages.
(c) I thought for a second and quickly pressed 'q' to quit from.
(d) After a few deep breaths, I did the M-x gnus-unplugged RET
routine, and lo and behold!! things were as they should have
been.
(e) I repeated the above steps (from starting emacs) to confirm this
behaviour.
(f) In one pass, during the second gnus invocation, I entered a group
and changed some marks, 's'ed in *Group* buffer and quit emacs.
Then I restarted Emacs. Again all groups showed unread messages
_except_ the group I had just edited.
(g) I restarted Emacs and did (setq nnml-marks-is-evil t) and life
appeared normal.
Is there a fix for this in CVS?
--
"Have you ever fought an IDEA, Picard?"
-- Gowron, Star Trek TNG.
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* Re: Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04.
2002-01-03 11:13 Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04 Karra
@ 2002-01-05 16:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-13 0:16 ` Karra
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-05 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Karra <karra@cs.utah.edu> writes:
> (a) I installed 0.04 and started emacs. I started gnus with M-x
> gnus-unpluged RET
> (b) A gory sight greeted me --- a gazillion unread messages.
> (c) I thought for a second and quickly pressed 'q' to quit from.
> (d) After a few deep breaths, I did the M-x gnus-unplugged RET
> routine, and lo and behold!! things were as they should have
> been.
> (e) I repeated the above steps (from starting emacs) to confirm this
> behaviour.
So the first time you start Gnus within an Emacs session, all articles
in all nnml groups become unread?
> (g) I restarted Emacs and did (setq nnml-marks-is-evil t) and life
> appeared normal.
>
> Is there a fix for this in CVS?
I'd suggest upgrading at least to 0.05 to see whether that helps.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04.
2002-01-05 16:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2002-01-13 0:16 ` Karra
2002-01-13 4:05 ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-19 22:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Karra @ 2002-01-13 0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Karra <karra@cs.utah.edu> writes:
>
>> (a) I installed 0.04 and started emacs. I started gnus with M-x
>> gnus-unpluged RET
>> (b) A gory sight greeted me --- a gazillion unread messages.
>> (c) I thought for a second and quickly pressed 'q' to quit from.
>> (d) After a few deep breaths, I did the M-x gnus-unplugged RET
>> routine, and lo and behold!! things were as they should have
>> been.
>> (e) I repeated the above steps (from starting emacs) to confirm this
>> behaviour.
>
> So the first time you start Gnus within an Emacs session, all articles
> in all nnml groups become unread?
>
>> (g) I restarted Emacs and did (setq nnml-marks-is-evil t) and life
>> appeared normal.
>>
>> Is there a fix for this in CVS?
>
> I'd suggest upgrading at least to 0.05 to see whether that helps.
I upgraded to latest CVS and tried again. The problem, as stated,
persisted. The actual problem turned out to be the presence of some
"wrong" .marks file that got generated sometime... I deleted all
.marks files and restarted Gnus. This solved the problem. This
delete-the-marks-file-and-restart routine also worked with
oort-0.04...
How about inserting the following into the manual?
--- gnus.texi.old Sun Jan 13 05:36:43 2002
+++ gnus.texi Sun Jan 13 05:42:19 2002
@@ -13688,6 +13688,10 @@
to restore the group (after restoring the backup into the nnml
directory).
+If for some reason you believe your @file{.marks} files are screwed
+up, you can just delete them all. Gnus will then correctly regenerate
+them next time it starts.
+
Virtual server settings:
@table @code
--
"Have you ever fought an IDEA, Picard?"
-- Gowron, Star Trek TNG.
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* Re: Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04.
2002-01-13 0:16 ` Karra
@ 2002-01-13 4:05 ` Paul Jarc
2002-01-19 22:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Paul Jarc @ 2002-01-13 4:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Karra <karra@cs.utah.edu> wrote:
> How about inserting the following into the manual?
>
> --- gnus.texi.old Sun Jan 13 05:36:43 2002
> +++ gnus.texi Sun Jan 13 05:42:19 2002
> @@ -13688,6 +13688,10 @@
> to restore the group (after restoring the backup into the nnml
> directory).
>
> +If for some reason you believe your @file{.marks} files are screwed
> +up, you can just delete them all. Gnus will then correctly regenerate
> +them next time it starts.
> +
Better also include a note that this will not necessarily always be
true in future versions. Right now, .newsrc.eld is storing a
redundant copy of the same information, but that may not always be the
case.
paul
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* Re: Marks woes on upgrade from oort 0.03 -> 0.04.
2002-01-13 0:16 ` Karra
2002-01-13 4:05 ` Paul Jarc
@ 2002-01-19 22:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-19 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Karra <karra@cs.utah.edu> writes:
> +If for some reason you believe your @file{.marks} files are screwed
> +up, you can just delete them all. Gnus will then correctly regenerate
> +them next time it starts.
Thanks for the patch; I've applied it to Oort Gnus v0.05 (i. e., CVS).
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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