Archived messages marked as expirable?

Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Samuel Padgett]

I have the following in my .gnus file:

(setq gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups "list\\..*")
(setq gnus-inews-mark-gcc-as-read t)    ; New in oGnus

When I respond to messages in auto-expirable groups, however, the
archived message is marked as expirable, not read.  Is this a bug?
How do I prevent this?  I'm running oGnus v0.01.

Thanks!

Sam
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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Samuel Padgett <sam@harpo.homeip.net> writes:

> I have the following in my .gnus file:
> 
> (setq gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups "list\\..*")
> (setq gnus-inews-mark-gcc-as-read t)    ; New in oGnus
> 
> When I respond to messages in auto-expirable groups, however, the
> archived message is marked as expirable, not read.  Is this a bug?
> How do I prevent this?  I'm running oGnus v0.01.

If the Gcc group is auto-expirable, it is a feature.  Otherwise, it is
a bug.

ShengHuo

Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Samuel Padgett]

ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> > When I respond to messages in auto-expirable groups, however, the
> > archived message is marked as expirable, not read.  Is this a bug?
> > How do I prevent this?  I'm running oGnus v0.01.
> 
> If the Gcc group is auto-expirable, it is a feature.  Otherwise, it is
> a bug.

The Gcc group is not auto-expirable, and not all archived messages are
being marked as expirable.  As far as I can tell, this only happens
for messages I post from within an auto-expirable group using `a' or
replies to messages from auto-expirable groups.  I can recreate this
behavior consistently.

Any other debugging information I can give you?

Sam
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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Samuel Padgett]

Samuel Padgett <sam@harpo.homeip.net> writes:

> I can recreate this behavior consistently.

Oddly, I can no longer recreate the problem.  Hm.

Sam
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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Didier Verna]

Samuel Padgett <sam@harpo.homeip.net> wrote:

> (setq gnus-inews-mark-gcc-as-read t)    ; New in oGnus

        What does the `inews' part stand for ?

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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Kai Großjohann]

On 05 Mar 2001, Didier Verna wrote:

>         What does the `inews' part stand for ?

inews is a program for sending news postings.  It's part of INN, I
think (a news server software).  Somehow, this name leaked into a few
Gnus functions and variables that have to do with sending postings.

kai
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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Didier Verna]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> On 05 Mar 2001, Didier Verna wrote:
> 
> >         What does the `inews' part stand for ?
> 
> inews is a program for sending news postings.  It's part of INN, I
> think (a news server software).  Somehow, this name leaked into a few
> Gnus functions and variables that have to do with sending postings.

        That's bad. In that case, the `inews' middle-fix is irrelevant.

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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Kai Großjohann]

On 05 Mar 2001, Didier Verna wrote:

> That's bad. In that case, the `inews' middle-fix is irrelevant.

Well.  Hm.  It might be strange, but there is a middle-fix for the
group buffer, for the summary buffer, and so on, so why not a
middle-fix for sending?

Maybe it should be renamed gnus-send-mark-gcc-as-unread or suchlike...

kai
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Re: Archived messages marked as expirable?

[Didier Verna]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> Maybe it should be renamed gnus-send-mark-gcc-as-unread or suchlike...

        A middle-fix of -archive- would make more sense to me...

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complete feeds for gnu.emacs.*?

[Bill White]

Over at quimby there's a complete feed of gnu.emacs.gnus.  Is there
someplace I can get similar complete feeds of the other gnu.emacs.*
groups?  Maybe someone could set that up on quimby?

"Obsessive-compulsive in Illinois",

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Re: complete feeds for gnu.emacs.*?

[Charles Sebold]

On 11 Adar 5761, Bill White wrote:

> Over at quimby there's a complete feed of gnu.emacs.gnus.  Is there
> someplace I can get similar complete feeds of the other gnu.emacs.*
> groups?  Maybe someone could set that up on quimby?

It would be nice, but...

This server seems slow enough as it is (I get gnu.emacs.gnus and
gnus.ding here) sometimes.  I doubt it could handle the inevitable
future load of becoming a public nntp server for gnu.emacs.*.

It's a shame gnu.org can't operate one to handle all the
gnu. newsgroups.  But considering how the "bidirectional gateway" works
for gnu.emacs.help maybe it's a good thing they're not trying.  *smiles*

(I realize that complaining doesn't help.  I will be making financial
contributions to FSF and so on when it is possible.  If I wasn't paying
for bandwidth by the MB/day, I would do this myself.)
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Re: complete feeds for gnu.emacs.*?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> Over at quimby there's a complete feed of gnu.emacs.gnus.  Is there
> someplace I can get similar complete feeds of the other gnu.emacs.*
> groups?  Maybe someone could set that up on quimby?

That's a nice idea, so I've just created all the groups on Quimby.
But I had a look around on the log files and I discovered that the
only site that feeds me is news.oche.de, and it only feeds me
gnu.emacs.gnus.  (Well -- I think so.  The log says that Quimby is
refusing some articles from oche, but it doesn't say why.)

And I also discovered that Quimby wasn't feeding any other sites.  Not
even oche.  So I've set that up again, and it seems to be working OK.
Only it seems that oche is now the only site that will accept articles
from Quimby.  :-/

So -- could somebody make oche feed Quimby gnu.*?  And could somebody
else also peer with me?  One single peer is at least one too few. 

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Re: complete feeds for gnu.emacs.*?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> So -- could somebody make oche feed Quimby gnu.*?  And could somebody
> else also peer with me?  One single peer is at least one too few. 

I read the logs a bit closer, and it seems as if the University of
Oslo is also feeding Quimby articles, so that seems OK.  But I still
need a complete gnu.* feed.

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: complete feeds for gnu.emacs.*?

[Chris Beggy]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> So -- could somebody make oche feed Quimby gnu.*?  And could somebody
>> else also peer with me?  One single peer is at least one too few. 
>
> I read the logs a bit closer, and it seems as if the University of
> Oslo is also feeding Quimby articles, so that seems OK.  But I still
> need a complete gnu.* feed.

I'd like to peer.  I'll send our peering info along.

Chris