No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

[Svend Tollak Munkejord]

Hi,

Even though I'm not so much into Gnus fiddling anymore, I thought I'd
try to upgrade from No Gnus v. 0.8 (the previous 1st May release?) to
v. 0.17. However, Gnus didn't like my .gnus:

byte-code: Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all

This is all that's said, so I don't know how to fix it. Am I better
off staying with the standard Gnus (Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2
(gnu/linux)), which does not complain, or does anyone have a good
idea?


Regards,
-- 
Svend Tollak Munkejord 

Re: No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Svend Tollak Munkejord wrote:
> Even though I'm not so much into Gnus fiddling anymore, I thought I'd
> try to upgrade from No Gnus v. 0.8 (the previous 1st May release?) to
> v. 0.17. However, Gnus didn't like my .gnus:

> byte-code: Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all

> This is all that's said, so I don't know how to fix it.

First of all, in such a case normally what you have to do first
is debugging and report a backtrace.  See:
(info "(gnus)Troubleshooting") <-- Type `C-x C-e' here.

;; `M-x set-variable RET debug-on-error RET t RET', or
;; `M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET', launch Gnus, and report what
;; Emacs says in the buffer named *Backtrace*.

I guess you load an old gnus-util.el(c), that is not of No Gnus
v0.17, and does not provide the function `gnus-macroexpand-all'
(new gnus-sum.el(c) uses it).

> Am I better off staying with the standard Gnus (Gnus/5.13 (Gnus
> v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux)), which does not complain, or does
> anyone have a good idea?

I can only tell is that Gnus developers will probably not be
interested in debugging of old Gnus. ;-)

Re: No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

[Svend Tollak Munkejord]

On 2011-05-17, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> Svend Tollak Munkejord wrote:
>> Even though I'm not so much into Gnus fiddling anymore, I thought I'd
>> try to upgrade from No Gnus v. 0.8 (the previous 1st May release?) to
>> v. 0.17. However, Gnus didn't like my .gnus:
>
>> byte-code: Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all
>
>> This is all that's said, so I don't know how to fix it.
>
> First of all, in such a case normally what you have to do first
> is debugging and report a backtrace.  See:
> (info "(gnus)Troubleshooting") <-- Type `C-x C-e' here.
>
> ;; `M-x set-variable RET debug-on-error RET t RET', or
> ;; `M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET', launch Gnus, and report what
> ;; Emacs says in the buffer named *Backtrace*.

Sorry, I should have remembered that.

Here is the backtrace:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnus-macroexpand-all)
  gnus-macroexpand-all((nnir-article-rsv (mail-header-number gnus-tmp-header)))
  byte-code("\300\301\302!\303BB\304\301\305!\306BB\307\310\311\312\313\314\301\315!\316BB\317\301\320!\321BB\322\323\324\301\325!\326BB\327\301\330!\331BB\332\333\334\335\336\337\340!\341BB\342BB\343\336\337\344!\345BB\346BB\347\336\337\350!\351BB\352BB\353\354\355\356\357\360\361\362\363\364\365\366\367\370\371\372\373\374\375\376\301\377!D\201@\0BB\257&\207" [78 macroexpand (mail-header-number gnus-tmp-header) (100) 83 (mail-header-subject gnus-tmp-header) (115) (115 gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil 115) (110 gnus-tmp-name 115) (65 (car ...) 115) (97 (or ... gnus-tmp-from) 115) (70 gnus-tmp-from 115) 120 (mail-header-xref gnus-tmp-header) (115) 68 (mail-header-date gnus-tmp-header) (115) (100 (gnus-dd-mmm ...) 115) (111 (gnus-date-iso8601 ...) 115) 77 (mail-header-id gnus-tmp-header) (115) 114 (mail-header-references gnus-tmp-header) (115) (99 (or ... 0) 100) (107 (gnus-summary-line-message-size gnus-tmp-header) 115) (76 gnus-tmp-lines 115) 90 or gnus-macroexpand-all (nnir-article-rsv (mail-header-number gnus-tmp-header)) (0) (100) 71 (nnir-article-group (mail-header-number gnus-tmp-header)) ("") (115) 103 (gnus-group-short-name (nnir-article-group ...)) ("") (115) (79 gnus-tmp-downloaded 99) (73 gnus-tmp-indentation 115) (84 (if ... "" ...) 115) (82 gnus-tmp-replied 99) (91 gnus-tmp-opening-bracket 99) (93 gnus-tmp-closing-bracket 99) (62 (make-string gnus-tmp-level 32) 115) ...] 41)
  (defvar gnus-summary-line-format-alist (byte-code "\300\301\302!\303BB\304\301\305!\306BB\307\310\311\312\313\314\301\315!\316BB\317\301\320!\321BB\322\323\324\301\325!\326BB\327\301\330!\331BB\332\333\334\335\336\337\340!\341BB\342BB\343\336\337\344!\345BB\346BB\347\336\337\350!\351BB\352BB\353\354\355\356\357\360\361\362\363\364\365\366\367\370\371\372\373\374\375\376\301\377!D\201@\0BB\257&\207" [78 macroexpand ... ... 83 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 120 ... ... 68 ... ... ... ... 77 ... ... 114 ... ... ... ... ... 90 or gnus-macroexpand-all ... ... ... 71 ... ... ... 103 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...] 41) ("/home/pvv/l/stm/gnus-n0-17/lisp/gnus-sum.elc" . 50960))
  require(gnus-sum)
  byte-code("\300\301!\210\300\302!\210\300\303!\210\300\304!\210\305\306\307\310\311\312\311\313\314\315&	\207" [require nnoo nnheader nnmail gnus-sum custom-declare-group gnus-namazu nil "Search nnmh and nnml groups in Gnus with Namazu." :group namazu gnus :prefix "gnus-namazu-"] 10)
  require(gnus-namazu)
  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "/home/pvv/l/stm/.gnus" nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 2693
  load-with-code-conversion("/home/pvv/l/stm/.gnus" "/home/pvv/l/stm/.gnus" nil t)
  load("~/.gnus" nil t)
  gnus-read-init-file()
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus t nil)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Does it tell you something?

> I guess you load an old gnus-util.el(c), that is not of No Gnus
> v0.17, and does not provide the function `gnus-macroexpand-all'
> (new gnus-sum.el(c) uses it).

There is no such file in my home directory (except the one of No Gnus
v0.17). Do I need to disable the Gnus that comes with Emacs
explicitly, other than saying

(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/gnus-n0-17/lisp") load-path))

in ~/.emacs?

>> Am I better off staying with the standard Gnus (Gnus/5.13 (Gnus
>> v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux)), which does not complain, or does
>> anyone have a good idea?
>
> I can only tell is that Gnus developers will probably not be
> interested in debugging of old Gnus. ;-)

Yes, indeed, but in this case, that wouldn't be necessary, since the
problem only emerges in the new version ;-)

Regards,
-- 
Svend Tollak Munkejord 

Re: No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Svend Tollak Munkejord <stm-direct_reply@pvv.org> writes:

> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnus-macroexpand-all)

I think this must mean that you're picking up an old version of
gnus-util.el from somewhere.

Modify your load path as the first thing in your .emacs to point to the
new Gnus installation, and things will work better.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/

Re: No Gnus v. 0.17 gives "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-macroexpand-all"

[Svend Tollak Munkejord]

On 2011-05-30, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Svend Tollak Munkejord <stm-direct_reply@pvv.org> writes:
>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function gnus-macroexpand-all)
>
> I think this must mean that you're picking up an old version of
> gnus-util.el from somewhere.
>
> Modify your load path as the first thing in your .emacs to point to the
> new Gnus installation, and things will work better.

By Jove, you're right! :-)

Indeed, my 

(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/gnus-n0-17/lisp") load-path))
(require 'gnus-load)

was found somewhat in the middle of my .emacs, but still, 
M-x locate-library said

Library is file ~/gnus-n0-17/lisp/gnus-util.elc

which seemed reasonable to me, so I didn't (and don't) understand
this.

Regards,
-- 
Svend Tollak Munkejord