more whining from a procmail weenie

more whining from a procmail weenie

[Justin Sheehy]

Okay.

So now (as of 0.75) I am able to fetch mail from my procmail spools
under the new mail-fetching scheme.  Whee.

However, this has resulted in a significant change in user-end
behavior.  One of the reasons that I use procmail instead of Gnus for
my filtering is so that my mail is already sorted at the moment that I
wish to read it.

I might sit at my desk after being away for a period of hours and want
to read a message in a certain group immediately.

Under the old system, I would press M-g over that nnml group, Gnus
would slurp in the appropriate spool file, and I would read happily.

Now, however, with an nnmail-spool-file of:

((directory :path "/afs/rcf/user/justin/Mail/incoming" :suffix ""))

Gnus insists on reading all files in that directory if it is to read
any at all.  So, if I have been away for a while and now want to read
a specific group, I must wait for all mail in all groups to be
incorporated.

An example:  I press M-g over nnml:inbox, and the following occurs:

nnml: Reading incoming mail from directory... 
Wrote /afs/rcf/user/justin/Mail/nnml/ding/9410 
Wrote /afs/rcf/user/justin/Mail/nnml/nedod/17161 
[elided]
nnml: Reading incoming mail...done 

Icky.

-Justin

Re: more whining from a procmail weenie

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Justin Sheehy <justin@linus.mitre.org> writes:

> Gnus insists on reading all files in that directory if it is to read
> any at all.  So, if I have been away for a while and now want to read
> a specific group, I must wait for all mail in all groups to be
> incorporated.

Yes, and that might not be good.  I don't quite see anyway to fit that 
into the new scheme without doing some horrible hacks, but perhaps I
could add a :predicate keyword that `nnmail-get-new-mail' would fill
out when doing `directory' mail sources and called with a group name.
*erk*  Well, ok, that's also ugly, but that should contain the
ugliness to a single function, at least...

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Re: more whining from a procmail weenie

[Randal L. Schwartz]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Lars> Justin Sheehy <justin@linus.mitre.org> writes:
>> Gnus insists on reading all files in that directory if it is to read
>> any at all.  So, if I have been away for a while and now want to read
>> a specific group, I must wait for all mail in all groups to be
>> incorporated.

Lars> Yes, and that might not be good.  I don't quite see anyway to fit that 
Lars> into the new scheme without doing some horrible hacks, but perhaps I
Lars> could add a :predicate keyword that `nnmail-get-new-mail' would fill
Lars> out when doing `directory' mail sources and called with a group name.
Lars> *erk*  Well, ok, that's also ugly, but that should contain the
Lars> ugliness to a single function, at least...

Did this ever happen?  I would miss the ability to Meta-G a single
mail group.  I'm thinking of switching to P any day now, but not until
my favorite mechanisms all still work.  (I'm not an early adopter...
just a late-early adopter. :)

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Re: more whining from a procmail weenie

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

> Did this ever happen?  I would miss the ability to Meta-G a single
> mail group.

It didn't happen quite that way, but I think `M-g' now works as
before.  It's supposed to, at least.

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Re: more whining from a procmail weenie

[Justin Sheehy]

merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:

> Did this ever happen?  I would miss the ability to Meta-G a single
> mail group. 

Thankfully, this now works.  I do this constantly.  :-)

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