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* Illustrated Manual
@ 1998-04-25 16:24 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-04-25 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


The Gnus Illustrated Manual Building Kit can now be found at
<URL:http://www.gnus.org/pspackage.tar.gz>.  I've had a few requests
for it, so now you can have a peek, if you want to.  I'm guessing it
probably takes a lot of hand-holding to get it to work unless you're
running Red Hat Linux.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-28 20:16 ` Hrvoje Niksic
@ 1997-11-28 23:05   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-11-28 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> Is that the illustrated one at www.gnus.org?

Not yet.  I'm still fiddling with it.

> Is there a single-sided version?  How can I create one?

You probably can't, but when it's getting more "finished" I'll
generate a whole bunch -- A4, legal, single, double, etc.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-28 18:32 ` Fredrik Glöckner
@ 1997-11-28 23:04   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-11-28 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Fredrik "Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> writes:

> That's a rather oldish picture of you, innit?

Yup.  I think it's from '93 or something.

> Haven't you got something newer?

Nope.  I don't think I've even got a camera.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-23 12:25 Illustrated manual Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  1997-11-23 16:01 ` Jon Babcock
  1997-11-28 18:32 ` Fredrik Glöckner
@ 1997-11-28 20:16 ` Hrvoje Niksic
  1997-11-28 23:05   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1997-11-28 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)


Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I've tarted the PostScript/LaTeX version of the manual up some more.
> I've added smileys, a couple of background pictures (writing TeX is
> fun, fun, fun for the whole family), and a picture of me, *me*, *ME*.
> And stuff.

Is that the illustrated one at www.gnus.org?  Is there a single-sided
version?  How can I create one?

-- 
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
--------------------------------+--------------------------------
Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword.


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-23 12:25 Illustrated manual Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  1997-11-23 16:01 ` Jon Babcock
@ 1997-11-28 18:32 ` Fredrik Glöckner
  1997-11-28 23:04   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  1997-11-28 20:16 ` Hrvoje Niksic
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Fredrik Glöckner @ 1997-11-28 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)


Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

| I've added smileys, a couple of background pictures (writing TeX is
| fun, fun, fun for the whole family), and a picture of me, *me*,
| *ME*.

That's a rather oldish picture of you, innit?  Haven't you got
something newer?

Fredrik


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-23 16:01 ` Jon Babcock
@ 1997-11-23 17:58   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-11-23 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)


Jon Babcock <jon@kanji.com> writes:

> All the background pictures, smileys, and humorous asides do not help
> new users very much. For Elisp illiterates, what the Gnus Manual needs
> is a Hierarchical Overview, running about twenty, densely-written
> pages.

Oh, you want *substance*.  I don't do substance.  Frivolous whimsy is
my speciality.

> This is a call from the world of lowly end-users, for a gallant hero
> to come forward and write such a Hierarchical Overview for the Gnus
> Manual. What could be more fun than to pull on your hat, sit back, and
> then to *synthesis* and *condense* your wide-ranging, in-depth
> understanding of the Gnus system into a brilliant and elegant
> twenty-page essay!

Hm.  Actually, this sounds like a quite interesting project.
Describing everything about Gnus -- the rationale, the way it works --
but without going into all the variables and commands and stuff.  Hm.

But it sounds like work.  I don't do work.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


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* Re: Illustrated manual
  1997-11-23 12:25 Illustrated manual Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1997-11-23 16:01 ` Jon Babcock
  1997-11-23 17:58   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  1997-11-28 18:32 ` Fredrik Glöckner
  1997-11-28 20:16 ` Hrvoje Niksic
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jon Babcock @ 1997-11-23 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> <snip> Anybody have more ideas for more graphics that would look
> nice?  Oh, and add substance, of course.  Mustn't forget that.

All the background pictures, smileys, and humorous asides do not help
new users very much. For Elisp illiterates, what the Gnus Manual needs
is a Hierarchical Overview, running about twenty, densely-written
pages. Unfortunately, new users and Elisp/Gnus illiterates cannot
write it and those who could, including many on this development list,
do not seem to be interested.

This is a call from the world of lowly end-users, for a gallant hero
to come forward and write such a Hierarchical Overview for the Gnus
Manual. What could be more fun than to pull on your hat, sit back, and
then to *synthesis* and *condense* your wide-ranging, in-depth
understanding of the Gnus system into a brilliant and elegant
twenty-page essay!

Jon Babcock

PS

I apologize for barging in.  I've been following ding for a year or so
in hopes of learning how to better use Gnus which I need to accompany,
yes, Mule. I use Mule (and now, finally, Emacs 20.x) to read and write
messages and postings that include traditional Chinese, simplified
Chinese and Japanese. Nearly all other members of such mailing lists
as honyaku (for JE/EJ translators), nihongo-computing, and SWET (for
writers, editors, and translators of things Japanese) use M$ or the
Mac, but they still cannot get the multi-scriptual capability that I
do with Mule, in spite of its painful deficiencies.

Really, I just want a mug...


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* Illustrated manual
@ 1997-11-23 12:25 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
  1997-11-23 16:01 ` Jon Babcock
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-11-23 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)


I've tarted the PostScript/LaTeX version of the manual up some more.
I've added smileys, a couple of background pictures (writing TeX is
fun, fun, fun for the whole family), and a picture of me, *me*, *ME*.
And stuff.  Oh, and I've harvested X-Faces, so don't be too shocked
when you find your own face in the manual.

I think I'll release the entire kit, so that if anybody wants to play
with it, they can.  But it'll probably work just for me.  Too much
dependence on particular versions of netpbm, LaTeX, fonts, etc.

Anybody have more ideas for more graphics that would look nice?  Oh,
and add substance, of course.  Mustn't forget that.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


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