gnus-setup.el?

gnus-setup.el?

[Karl Kleinpaste]

While chasing a reference to bbdb in gnu.emacs.gnus, I happened to
grep in my Gnus lisp dir and quite accidentally noticed gnus-setup.el.

Does this thing have any relationship to the real world?

Here are some of the more exciting things found there:

(defvar gnus-use-installed-tm running-xemacs)
(defvar gnus-emacs-lisp-directory (if running-xemacs
				      "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/"
				    "/usr/local/share/emacs/"))

-=> 5.0.15?!? <=-
(defvar gnus-gnus-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
					 "gnus-5.0.15/lisp/")
  "Directory where Gnus Emacs lisp is found.")

(defvar gnus-mailcrypt-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
					      "site-lisp/mailcrypt-3.4/"))

(defvar gnus-bbdb-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
					 "site-lisp/bbdb-1.51/"))

As near as I can tell, this whole file is wondrously out-of-date.
Does anybody actually use it?

Re: gnus-setup.el?

[Michael Welsh Duggan]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> writes:

> While chasing a reference to bbdb in gnu.emacs.gnus, I happened to
> grep in my Gnus lisp dir and quite accidentally noticed gnus-setup.el.
> 
> Does this thing have any relationship to the real world?
> 
> Here are some of the more exciting things found there:
> 
> (defvar gnus-use-installed-tm running-xemacs)
> (defvar gnus-emacs-lisp-directory (if running-xemacs
>                                     "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/"
>                                   "/usr/local/share/emacs/"))
> 
> -=> 5.0.15?!? <=-
> (defvar gnus-gnus-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
>                                        "gnus-5.0.15/lisp/")
>   "Directory where Gnus Emacs lisp is found.")
> 
> (defvar gnus-mailcrypt-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
>                                             "site-lisp/mailcrypt-3.4/"))
> 
> (defvar gnus-bbdb-lisp-directory (concat gnus-emacs-lisp-directory
>                                        "site-lisp/bbdb-1.51/"))
> 
> As near as I can tell, this whole file is wondrously out-of-date.
> Does anybody actually use it?

I do, sort of.  I have this in my .emacs.el:

;;; Gnus  (most gnus hackery is in my .gnus file)
(setq gnus-use-beta t)
(setq gnus-gamma-dir "~md5i/src/elisp/gnus/")
(setq gnus-beta-dir "~md5i/src/elisp/pgnus/")
(setq gnus-base-dir (if gnus-use-beta gnus-beta-dir gnus-gamma-dir))
(setq gnus-use-installed-gnus nil)
(setq gnus-emacs-lisp-directory "~md5i/aixtree/share/emacs")
(setq gnus-gnus-lisp-directory (concat gnus-base-dir "lisp"))
(setq gnus-use-mailcrypt nil)
(add-path (active-info-dir) (list (concat gnus-base-dir "texi")))
(require 'gnus-setup (concat gnus-base-dir "lisp/gnus-setup"))

-- 
Michael Duggan
(md5i@cs.cmu.edu)

Re: gnus-setup.el?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> writes:

> As near as I can tell, this whole file is wondrously out-of-date.

Yeah.  Anybody want to update it?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: gnus-setup.el?

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Yeah.  Anybody want to update it?

I was kinda thinking that we'd just get rid of it entirely, because I
couldn't conceive at the time how it could still be useful, since it
seemed to be actively damaging to a sensible environment.  But I had a
couple private replies saying that it's used, though the values
contained there are of course being replaced by its users.  (This
makes me wonder what the value is from having it available at all.)

I'll tweak the file a bit sometime soon.

Re: gnus-setup.el?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> writes:

> I was kinda thinking that we'd just get rid of it entirely, because I
> couldn't conceive at the time how it could still be useful, since it
> seemed to be actively damaging to a sensible environment.  But I had a
> couple private replies saying that it's used, though the values
> contained there are of course being replaced by its users.  (This
> makes me wonder what the value is from having it available at all.)
> 
> I'll tweak the file a bit sometime soon.

If it has no value, we can remove it.  If people are using it, it
would be better to update it.  I've never used it myself...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen