Picons - still not quite right.

Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

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Hi Lars!

Sorry for not replying to the message where you asked me to give
examples, but somewhere along the line of testing and reconfiguring
multiple versions of Gnus, it um, got deleted. :-(

Anyway, I was talking about Gnus not picking up as many picons as it
used to.

This 1st screenshot is of the "From:" header of one of my own posts,
using Gnus v5.8.8:


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Note how there is a picon representing the user name part of the email
address.

This 2nd screenshot is of the same article, but this time using Oort
v0.05: 


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Note missing picon for "youngs".  Oh, and this also shows how the
picons aren't "replacing" the text, but rather are there in addition
to the text.

I just received an internal email from 'root' on my system, it didn't
have the tree-root picon.

Also, if I don't set 'gnus-picon-databases' I don't see *any* picons.
In case you are wondering, my picons are in '/usr/local/faces/', one
of the default directories that Gnus is supposed to search in.

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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

> Note missing picon for "youngs".

Oh, right.  But do you really want to have that "unknown" picon
displayed in 90% of all the messages?

> Oh, and this also shows how the picons aren't "replacing" the text,
> but rather are there in addition to the text.

Yeah, I haven't fixed that yet under XEmacs.

> I just received an internal email from 'root' on my system, it didn't
> have the tree-root picon.

Hm...  That's supposed to work.  I'll mail myself a test message and
try to fix it.

> Also, if I don't set 'gnus-picon-databases' I don't see *any* picons.
> In case you are wondering, my picons are in '/usr/local/faces/', one
> of the default directories that Gnus is supposed to search in.

Yup.  Fix in Oort Gnus v0.05 (i. e., CVS).

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Oh, right.  But do you really want to have that "unknown" picon
> displayed in 90% of all the messages?

Well, that should be up to the user.  But I've know put in support for
"unknown" users.

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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  LMI> Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:
  >>Note missing picon for "youngs".

  LMI> Oh, right.  But do you really want to have that "unknown" picon
  LMI> displayed in 90% of all the messages?

The other side of the coin is why use picons at all if only 10% or
less of messages will have them?

If a picon exists that can be used, why not use it?

  >>Also, if I don't set 'gnus-picon-databases' I don't see *any* picons.
  >>In case you are wondering, my picons are in '/usr/local/faces/', one
  >>of the default directories that Gnus is supposed to search in.

  LMI> Yup.  Fix in Oort Gnus v0.05 (i. e., CVS).

Yep, works.

Discovered something else though. :-(  I'm now not seeing any picons
in Kai Großjohann's emails.  Pretty sure that that used to work in the
updated gnus-picon.el, definitely in the old one.

Betcha wishing you hadn't decided to rewrite the picon code, huh? :-P

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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "SY" == Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

  SY> If a picon exists that can be used, why not use it?

Woohoo!  I now have more picons showing up than you can poke a stick
at.  Thanks, Lars! :-)


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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

> Discovered something else though. :-(  I'm now not seeing any picons
> in Kai Großjohann's emails.  Pretty sure that that used to work in the
> updated gnus-picon.el, definitely in the old one.

Might be a header parsing problem again.  I think I'll alter the code
not to use `mail-header-parse-addresses'.

> Betcha wishing you hadn't decided to rewrite the picon code, huh? :-P

Je ne regrette rien!

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  LMI> Je ne regrette rien!

Cool.  Life's too short anyway.

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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

[...]

>> Oh, and this also shows how the picons aren't "replacing" the text,
>> but rather are there in addition to the text.
>
> Yeah, I haven't fixed that yet under XEmacs.

Fixed.

ShengHuo

Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "ZSH" == ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

  ZSH> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
  ZSH> [...]

  >>>Oh, and this also shows how the picons aren't "replacing" the text,
  >>>but rather are there in addition to the text.
  >>
  >>Yeah, I haven't fixed that yet under XEmacs.

  ZSH> Fixed.

Fantastic!  Thanks, ShengHuo.  But I think something else has gone
wrong now.  I'm only seeing one of Didier's X-Faces.  Both headers are
there, but only one picture (the first one, his face, not the guitar
one). 

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Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:

[...]

> Fantastic!  Thanks, ShengHuo.  But I think something else has gone
> wrong now.  I'm only seeing one of Didier's X-Faces.  Both headers are
> there, but only one picture (the first one, his face, not the guitar
> one). 

Fixed.

ShengHuo

Re: Picons - still not quite right.

[Steve Youngs]

|--==> "ZSH" == ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

  ZSH> Steve Youngs <youngs@xemacs.org> writes:
  ZSH> [...]

  >>Fantastic!  Thanks, ShengHuo.  But I think something else has gone
  >>wrong now.  I'm only seeing one of Didier's X-Faces.  Both headers are
  >>there, but only one picture (the first one, his face, not the guitar
  >>one). 

  ZSH> Fixed.

Confirmed.  Thanks, ShengHuo.

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