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From: Greg Troxel <gdt@lexort.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:00:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rmio7a2mfkj.fsf@s1.lexort.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m25xwar37g.fsf@macmutant.fritz.box> (Arash Esbati's message of "Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:16:35 +0200")

Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org> writes:

>> I've focused on figuring out why the active number goes wrong, but in
>> the interest of pragmatism it might be better just to make sure that
>> nnimap always does the equivalent of "M-g" at Gnus startup.
>
> That might be a good compromise.

Agreed.  It seems obvious (said knowing that's dangerous) that on
starting up the program, it's best not to rely on state that could be
wrong.   That's tricky, because mail programs keep messages and don't
refetch them, but relying on counts of unread seems very trouble prone,
vs "I have this message body and the timestamp matches so I won't fetch
it."

I think it would also be good to separate

   check for new

   get all the messages that are there

   really rescan and don't believe state

in terms of being much louder about the differences.  I have the
impression that the assembled gnususers here are at least somewhat hazy
on those boundaries.  At least I am.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-12  0:57 Xiyue Deng
2024-04-17  0:03 ` Greg Troxel
2024-04-17  6:47   ` Xiyue Deng
2024-04-17 19:51 ` Dan Christensen
2024-04-18 12:13   ` Greg Troxel
2024-04-19 22:55     ` Dan Christensen
2024-04-21 12:08       ` Arash Esbati
2024-04-21 12:43         ` Dan Christensen
2024-04-21 13:14         ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-21 16:18         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2024-04-21 18:16           ` Arash Esbati
2024-04-22  0:00             ` Greg Troxel [this message]
2024-04-22  2:35               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2024-04-27 19:46                 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-05-02  5:47                   ` Xiyue Deng
2024-05-02 15:08                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2024-05-02 17:24                       ` Xiyue Deng
2024-05-02 17:41                         ` Dan Christensen
2024-05-02 18:41                           ` Xiyue Deng
2024-05-05 20:18                             ` Xiyue Deng
2024-05-05 21:01                               ` Dan Christensen
2024-05-05 22:10                                 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-04-24 15:23           ` James Thomas
2024-04-25  2:59             ` Eric Abrahamsen

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