webmail not fetching my-deja mail

webmail not fetching my-deja mail

[Bill White]

gnus cvs from about 1000 UTC this morning, GNU Emacs 20.7.1
(i586-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of Thu Jun 22 2000 on g.wolfram.com.

Perhaps the url has changed? This is the start of it:

http://mail8.bigmailbox.com/users/my-dejacom/go.cgi? ...

bw
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Re: webmail not fetching my-deja mail

[Bill White]

Deja.com changed email service providers. See
<url:http://www.deja.com/email_switch.shtml>:

,----
| In an effort to better serve your e-mail needs, we'll be switching
| our My Deja e-mail service to a new provider on Sep 25, 2000. One
| of the major benefits of this move will be an improvement in the
| delivery time of your e-mail.
| 
| <...snip...>
`----

Perhaps something broke webmail.el when they changed services.

Also, after doing a fresh checkout, configure and make from cvs
sources, gnus/lisp/webmail.el remains uncompiled. Is that intentional?

Cheers -

bw
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Re: webmail not fetching my-deja mail

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> Deja.com changed email service providers. See
> <url:http://www.deja.com/email_switch.shtml>:
> 
> ,----
> | In an effort to better serve your e-mail needs, we'll be switching
> | our My Deja e-mail service to a new provider on Sep 25, 2000. One
> | of the major benefits of this move will be an improvement in the
> | delivery time of your e-mail.
> | 
> | <...snip...>
> `----
> 
> Perhaps something broke webmail.el when they changed services.

My-Deja changes its HTML formats a lot. :-(

> Also, after doing a fresh checkout, configure and make from cvs
> sources, gnus/lisp/webmail.el remains uncompiled. Is that intentional?

It is because w3 is not in the load-path.  You may use

        configure --with-w3=/the/w3/path

ShengHuo

most stable webmail site?

[Bill White]

On Thu Sep 28 2000 at 13:43, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:

  > My-Deja changes its HTML formats a lot. :-(

my-deja has changed *again*! Which of the sites supported by webmail
seems to be the most stable?

Thanks -

bw
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Re: most stable webmail site?

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> On Thu Sep 28 2000 at 13:43, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:
> 
>   > My-Deja changes its HTML formats a lot. :-(
> 
> my-deja has changed *again*! Which of the sites supported by webmail

Fixed.

> seems to be the most stable?

You could use POP3 to access Yahoo mails (after sign up the option).
It doesn't depend on webmail.el .

ShengHuo

pop access thru a firewall?

[Bill White]

On Fri Oct 06 2000 at 08:04, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:

  > You could use POP3 to access Yahoo mails (after sign up the
  > option).  It doesn't depend on webmail.el .

Hey - that's nifty.

,----[ ~/.gnus ]
| [...]
| (setq mail-sources
|       '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/billw")
|         (pop :server "pop.mail.yahoo.com" 
|              :user "myusername" 
|              :password "mypassword" 
|              :dontexpunge nil)))
| [...]
`----

After a restart of emacs and gnus, gnus hangs/waits after loading
pop3.el, probably because I'm behind a firewall. Is there some
straightforward way to access a pop server thru a firewall?

Thanks -

bw
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Re: pop access thru a firewall?

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> On Fri Oct 06 2000 at 08:04, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:
> 
>   > You could use POP3 to access Yahoo mails (after sign up the
>   > option).  It doesn't depend on webmail.el .
> 
> Hey - that's nifty.
> 
> ,----[ ~/.gnus ]
> | [...]
> | (setq mail-sources
> |       '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/billw")
> |         (pop :server "pop.mail.yahoo.com" 
> |              :user "myusername" 
> |              :password "mypassword" 
> |              :dontexpunge nil)))
> | [...]
> `----
> 
> After a restart of emacs and gnus, gnus hangs/waits after loading
> pop3.el, probably because I'm behind a firewall. Is there some
> straightforward way to access a pop server thru a firewall?

I have a primitive package to workaround the firewall by advising
open-network-steam.  I haven't tested many features, but to access
POP3/NNTP via HTTP tunnel works. It is at

 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/zsh/hacks/firewall.el

ShengHuo

Re: pop access thru a firewall?

[Bill White]

On Fri Oct 06 2000 at 09:20, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:

  > I have a primitive package to workaround the firewall by advising
  > open-network-steam.  I haven't tested many features, but to access
  > POP3/NNTP via HTTP tunnel works. It is at

  >  http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/zsh/hacks/firewall.el

dl'd and installed...

Here's my firewall and mail-sources setup:

,----[ ~/.gnus ]
| (add-to-list 'load-path "/billw/emacs/emacs-lisp/shenghuo-zhu")
| (require 'firewall)
| 
| ; First, you need setup 
| (setq firewall-gateway-host "proxy.wolfram.com")
| (setq firewall-gateway-port 8080)
| (ad-activate 'open-network-stream)
| ;;; 4. http 
| (setq firewall-gateway-function-list 
|  '(firewall-gateway-send-connect
|    firewall-gateway-wait-http))
|
| [...]
|
| (setq mail-sources
|       '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/billw")
|         (pop :server "pop.mail.yahoo.com" 
|              :user "myusername" 
|              :password "mypassword" 
|              :dontexpunge nil)))
| [...]
`----

It looks like a connection is successfully established, but I get a
"Timeout!", probably from from firewall-gateway-wait-http. 

Here's the POP trace buffer:

,----[ buffer " trace of POP session to pop.mail.yahoo.com" ]
| HTTP/1.0 200 Connection established
| 
| +OK hello from popgate
`----

The reply from yahoo seems to be different from what's expected in
firewall-gateway-wait-http:

,----[ firewall.el ]
| (defun firewall-gateway-wait-http (proc host service)
|   (firewall-wait-for-string "HTTP.* 200 OK\r*\n\r*\n" proc)
|   (delete-region (point-min) (point))
|   nil)
`----

Am I on the right path? Any thoughts?

Thanks for all your help!

bw
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Re: pop access thru a firewall?

[ShengHuo ZHU]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> Here's the POP trace buffer:
> 
> ,----[ buffer " trace of POP session to pop.mail.yahoo.com" ]
> | HTTP/1.0 200 Connection established
> | 
> | +OK hello from popgate
> `----
> 
> The reply from yahoo seems to be different from what's expected in
> firewall-gateway-wait-http:
> 
> ,----[ firewall.el ]
> | (defun firewall-gateway-wait-http (proc host service)
> |   (firewall-wait-for-string "HTTP.* 200 OK\r*\n\r*\n" proc)
> |   (delete-region (point-min) (point))
> |   nil)
> `----

The proxy returns a different message.  Anyway, you may change the
function as the following or get a new version at the URL.

 (defun firewall-gateway-wait-http (proc host service)
   (firewall-wait-for-string "HTTP.* 200 .*\r*\n\r*\n" proc)
   (delete-region (point-min) (point))
   nil)

ShengHuo

Re: pop access thru a firewall?

[Bill White]

On Fri Oct 06 2000 at 11:09, ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> said:

  > The proxy returns a different message.  Anyway, you may change the
  > function as the following or get a new version at the URL.

It works! Many thanks for your help -

bw
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