making the agent cool

making the agent cool

[Wes Hardaker]

You know what I'd like in the agent?  

no?  Ok, I guess I'll have to tell you.  Do you think we'll ever get
the point of being able to psychicly read things posted by someone elses 
mind, and are you willing to port gnus to the new system when it comes 
out (nnmind?)

Anyway, I've frequently used the agent heavily in the past (its really 
cool), but I'd like for gnus to use the agent's cache files when
available even if in plugged mode.  Or, use a new Semi-plugged mode.
Almost-plugged?  The whole purpose is that occasionally, I'm plugged
so that I can send/post stuff immediately but I still have a cached
copy of the articles from the agent's snarf bucket.  More importantly, 
I do this all the time when using nnimap (mainly because nnimap fails
under the agent in the first place upon exiting the summary buffer)...

How much of a pain would this be?

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Re: making the agent cool

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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| How much of a pain would this be?

That depends... how automated can it be to stuff agentized articles into
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Mind reading (was: Re: making the agent cool)

[Per Abrahamsen]

Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

> no?  Ok, I guess I'll have to tell you.  Do you think we'll ever get
> the point of being able to psychicly read things posted by someone elses 
> mind, and are you willing to port gnus to the new system when it comes 
> out (nnmind?)

I have some prototype code for use in my telepathic surveys.  I'll try
to isolate mind reading parts from the statistics part in a separate
library (esp.el).  I believe there is a lot of potential for
that. I'll contact you when I have a first draft to an API.
Hopefully, you will be able to use it for creating a `nnmind.el'.

For those of you who want to alpha test `esp.el': Don't bother
contacting me, I'll contact you when it is ready.

Re: Mind reading (was: Re: making the agent cool)

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 16 Apr 1999 15:12:42 +0200, Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> said:

Per> I believe there is a lot of potential for that. I'll contact you
Per> when I have a first draft to an API.  Hopefully, you will be able
Per> to use it for creating a `nnmind.el'.

Great!  My mind will be waiting for your note.

Per> For those of you who want to alpha test `esp.el': Don't bother
Per> contacting me, I'll contact you when it is ready.

ok.  I'll just sit here and wait until then (my mind currently doesn't 
handle interrupts properly, so I'll have to hang on my connection to you

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Re: making the agent cool

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

> Anyway, I've frequently used the agent heavily in the past (its really 
> cool), but I'd like for gnus to use the agent's cache files when
> available even if in plugged mode. 

[...]

> How much of a pain would this be?

It would be a semi-big pain.  I think.  The Agent does its thing, and
when plugged, a totally different thing is done, and never the twain
meet.  But it's possible that something could be done by tricking the
cache code into looking at the Agent files as well, but it will be
ugly.

So -- eh.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: making the agent cool

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 17 Apr 1999 10:18:03 +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:

>> Anyway, I've frequently used the agent heavily in the past (its really 
>> cool), but I'd like for gnus to use the agent's cache files when
>> available even if in plugged mode. 

>> How much of a pain would this be?

Lars> It would be a semi-big pain.  I think.  The Agent does its
Lars> thing, and when plugged, a totally different thing is done, and
Lars> never the twain meet.  But it's possible that something could be
Lars> done by tricking the cache code into looking at the Agent files
Lars> as well, but it will be ugly.

Thats what I was afraid of.  I wouldn't think it would be *that*
difficult, especially since the cache support is already there.

Plus, heh heh, shouldn't the cache directory variable really be a list 
of directories instead of a single.  That way, I could steal my
friends caches by using:

(setq gnus-cache-directories '("~/News/cache" 
                               "~/News/agent" 
                               "~friend/News/cache"
                               "~friend/News/agent"
			       "/lars@quimbies.gnus.org/path/to/ding/cache))

Heh.  Wouldn't that be cool?


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Re: making the agent cool

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

> (setq gnus-cache-directories '("~/News/cache" 
>                                "~/News/agent" 
>                                "~friend/News/cache"
>                                "~friend/News/agent"
> 			       "/lars@quimbies.gnus.org/path/to/ding/cache))
> 
> Heh.  Wouldn't that be cool?

Yes.  But I think it would be too much work.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen