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From: Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: charset=macintosh
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:30:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <sh4r6f3rgn.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ilu1y1j5917.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:25:08 +0100")

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Me too, but I'm not sure if Gnus should override Emacs' coding system
> ordering, and emacs prefers mac-roman over utf-8.  The reason Emacs
> doesn't list UTF-8 higher than macintosh is, supposedly, that the
> UTF-8 support is not complete.  Once it is complete, the emacs
> maintainers will probably change the preference ordering.

Thanks for explanation!

> Fortunately it is easy to override the priorities within Gnus:
>
>  '(mm-coding-system-priorities (quote (iso-latin-1 iso-latin-9 utf-8)))
>
> Of course, the die-hard solution is to run emacs in a UTF-8 locale,
> then UTF-8 is preferred everywhere.  I use this without problems, but
> I do use the above line to downgrade to 8859-1/8859-15 in mail,
> whenever possible.

Last week I also did Emacs in a UTF-8 locale for some days and most of
the time, it was a pleasure.  You're right one should set:

'(mm-coding-system-priorities (quote (iso-latin-1 iso-latin-9 utf-8)))

If you do not try to post using latin1/15, many a lot readers are not
that happy with your postings.

I also observed that even more users don't set the Mime headers at
all!  And Gnus assumes UTF-8 for those postings and that's always
wrong -- as you might imagine ;)

> Hm.  The UTF-8 discussion in Emacs 21.2 PROBLEMS is not present in
> Emacs 21.3 prerelease, so perhaps it has been fixed.  I'll ask on
> emacs-devel whether utf-8 should be preferred over mac-roman.

Thanks for your help!

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-07 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-07 17:39 charset=macintosh Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-07 18:25 ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-07 19:30   ` Karl Eichwalder [this message]
2003-03-07 19:45     ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-07 20:40       ` charset=macintosh Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-07 23:05         ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-08 14:47           ` charset=macintosh Kai Großjohann
2003-03-08 15:47             ` charset=macintosh Jorge Godoy
2003-03-08 15:55               ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-08 19:52                 ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-08 20:09                   ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-08 16:00               ` charset=macintosh Kai Großjohann
2003-03-08 16:47             ` charset=macintosh Frank Schmitt
2003-03-08 19:44               ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-08 19:47             ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-08 20:17               ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-09  3:56                 ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-09 11:48                   ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-14 23:02                     ` charset=macintosh Jesper Harder
2003-03-07 19:47     ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-03-07 21:02   ` charset=macintosh Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-07 21:24     ` charset=macintosh Simon Josefsson
2003-04-01 17:51   ` mm-coding-system-priorities (was: charset=macintosh) Reiner Steib
2003-04-12 19:53     ` mm-coding-system-priorities Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-04-13 20:44       ` mm-coding-system-priorities Reiner Steib
2003-04-15 21:54         ` mm-coding-system-priorities Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-03-08  2:39 ` TeX input method? (Was: charset=macintosh) Jinhyok Heo
2003-03-08  6:33   ` TeX input method? Karl Eichwalder
2003-03-09 17:07 charset=macintosh Jesper Harder

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