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From: Greg Troxel <gdt@work.lexort.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: That newfangled IMAP thing...
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:43:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <smu4oe4fji8.fsf@linuxpal.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r5h9dmqt.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2010 03:04:26 +0200")

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  But I have no idea how it works, really.  You point Gnus at an IMAP
  server, and then what?  How do you tell it how to split your email and
  stuff?

Others have replied, but I thought I'd explain what I do.

I have split mail with procmail for a long time, and used to used MH-E
to read it.  Then I got a handheld (palm TX) that did IMAP, and
converted to IMAP for storage of my mail.  This caused me to switch to
gnus, because it was on the short list of sane readers with imap
support.

Now, I use 3 devices to read mail:

  gnus on the same computer as the imap server

  iphone (just inbox)

  mac and Mail.app (just inbox, occasionally slightly more)

Most imap folders (== groups in gnus) I read only with gnus; I'd go
crazy without scoring and 'c y'.

Given the above setup, it's critical to have something
pre-final-delivery do spliting.  A lot of the point is to avoid putting
anything in my INBOX unless it's timely and personal - so i can not have
the phone pull it down and not have my brain have to deal with mail with
a slow UI unless it's important - and I'd like that to happen without
gnus running anywhere.

I'm not a raving fan of procmail, but it's good enough and basically I
add a new rule for every mailinglist.  I have 1200 lines (wc -l) between
two accounts, which is more or less 300 commented rules.

From the gnus/imap point of view, what I'd like to see is:

  any caching/agent support to explicitly get that other imap clients
  can change state of the mailbox

  perhaps faster polling by using imap features more smartly

  accurate unread counts by asking the server for unread, not computing
  on sequence numbers

Features I wouldn't necessarily use, but might be cool

  storing gnus split rules as sieve rules on the server.  The basic
  problem is that with imap you usually want multiple clients to deal.

I have really been pretty happy with gnus' imap support over the last
4.5 years.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-05 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 219+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-05  1:04 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05  1:12 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:20   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 11:44     ` Sebastian Krause
2010-09-05 12:00     ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-05 13:16     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 19:58     ` James Cloos
2010-09-06  7:17     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-07 14:15     ` Wes Hardaker
2010-09-07 14:52       ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 17:56         ` Wes Hardaker
2010-12-05 12:33         ` Matthias Andree
2010-09-05  1:56 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-05  2:17 ` Tibor Simko
2010-09-05  2:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05  7:18   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:00     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 13:31       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:23   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:22     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 13:25       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:43         ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:26     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 17:30       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-06  9:05         ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-06 15:02           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 15:28             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 14:54               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-09 14:58                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 15:07                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05 17:30       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 10:55 ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 13:28   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:07     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 17:10       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:30         ` Memnon Anon
2010-09-06  7:41           ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-27 23:16     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-29 14:43       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 19:19         ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:03           ` [PATCH] nnimap.el (nnimap-process-expiry-targets): avoid downloading articles unless necessary Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:17             ` expiry taking "forever" in both cpu time and real time when the IMAP UID is high Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:59               ` Daniel Pittman
2010-12-02 13:28                 ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-05 12:21                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-11-06 22:24                     ` slow nnimap expiry (dubious patch) John Magorrian
2012-01-03 22:53                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13  8:56                         ` Bjørn Mork
2012-02-13 19:27                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13 20:48                             ` Bjørn Mork
2012-02-26 14:27                         ` Dave Abrahams
2012-03-10  0:51                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-03-10 18:16                             ` Dave Abrahams
2012-03-10 19:57                               ` John Magorrian
2010-12-05 12:16             ` [PATCH] nnimap.el (nnimap-process-expiry-targets): avoid downloading articles unless necessary Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 12:43 ` Greg Troxel [this message]
2010-09-05 12:56   ` That newfangled IMAP thing Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:16     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:38       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:40         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:46           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:12             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:43               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:49                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 16:59                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:00                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:47                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:49                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 12:50                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-09 12:55                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-09 13:55                       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-09 13:59                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 14:26                         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-09 17:14                         ` Sebastian Krause
2010-09-10 23:33                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-10 23:53                             ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2010-09-11  0:02                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11  0:16                                 ` Greg Troxel
2010-09-11  0:31                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11  3:42                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-11 11:07                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-11 11:47                                         ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-11 15:44                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11 17:20                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11 17:30                                               ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-11 17:31                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  8:38                                               ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12  9:24                                                 ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-12  9:53                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 11:12                                                   ` Richard Riley
2010-09-12 13:15                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 15:12                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 15:40                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-12 16:03                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 16:56                                                         ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-12 17:03                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 17:26                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-12 17:29                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 19:47                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 20:19                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  4:28                                                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 17:24                                                         ` Richard Riley
2010-09-13 10:54                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13  4:26                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13  9:28                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  9:49                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13  9:57                                                         ` David Edmondson
2010-09-13 10:20                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  9:58                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 10:07                                                           ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-13 10:24                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13 11:06                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 11:54                                                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13 12:20                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-11 20:52                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  2:17                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  8:32                                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 13:08                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  4:24                                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13 10:51                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13 11:09                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 12:24                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13 12:58                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 14:22                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 20:36                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 21:43                                                             ` Knut Anders Hatlen
2010-09-13 21:55                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 22:12                                                                 ` Knut Anders Hatlen
2010-09-13 22:14                                                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13 22:54                                                                 ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-14  7:19                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 15:10                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 15:18                                                                     ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 15:29                                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 15:30                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 15:44                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 16:21                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 18:51                                                                           ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:01                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:23                                                                               ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:26                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:47                                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:57                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 20:07                                                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:19                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:24                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:35                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:40                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:40                                                                               ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:43                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:46                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15  8:37                                                                                   ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:26                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:28                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:44                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15 10:24                                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:35                                                                           ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:44                                                                           ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-14 19:50                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 20:07                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 20:23                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 20:49                                                                                   ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-15  6:05                                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-15  7:33                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 23:56                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14  0:10                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14  0:35                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 10:58                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-12  2:18                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-12  2:32                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 15:23                   ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-06 20:14                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:01                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 21:05                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:27                           ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 21:29                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:39                               ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-07  0:57                         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-07  1:41                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-07  2:49                             ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-07  6:14                               ` Gijs Hillenius
2010-09-07  7:17                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-07 14:57                       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-07 17:59                       ` James Cloos
2010-09-07 18:16                         ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08  8:34                           ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08  9:06                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 10:00                               ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08 10:07                                 ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-08 12:06                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 12:18                                     ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-08 14:29                                     ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08 14:43                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 11:50                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 21:26                                   ` Wes Hardaker
2010-09-05 15:02               ` Mark Plaksin
2010-09-05 16:01               ` David Engster
2010-09-05 16:06                 ` David Engster
2010-09-05 16:15                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 18:15                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 18:21                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 19:46                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 19:58                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 12:57                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-06 13:01                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 13:12                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05 20:04                       ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-05 20:10                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:44             ` Tom Rauchenwald
2010-09-06  3:51         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-06  8:45         ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-06 13:39           ` Romain Francoise
2010-09-06 14:23             ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-06 21:01               ` Daniel Dehennin
2010-09-06 21:04                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 16:26             ` Gijs Hillenius
2010-09-06 16:40               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:27     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:25     ` Frank Schmitt

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