* Plugged or not?
@ 2003-03-03 14:36 Robert Epprecht
2003-03-03 15:03 ` Kevin Greiner
2003-03-03 16:55 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-03-03 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
CVS Gnus from a few minutes ago:
I start Gnus with
emacs -f gnus
I have the following line in my .gnus.el
(setq gnus-plugged nil)
and the Agent did this like I wanted since a long time, but now something
has changed: While the Agent still seems to be unplugged (i.e. can't fetch
articles) the Mode line of the Summary buffer pretends the contrary:
Just after starting:
-:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Plugged)--L2-
C-h v gnus-plugged says: gnus-plugged's value is nil
I do 'J j' and see:
-:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Plugged)--L1-
C-h v gnus-plugged: gnus-plugged's value is t
I do another 'J j':
-:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Unplugged)--L1
C-h v gnus-plugged: gnus-plugged's value is nil
Strange...
BTW What's the L2/L1 thing at the end of the line?
Robert Epprecht
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 14:36 Plugged or not? Robert Epprecht
@ 2003-03-03 15:03 ` Kevin Greiner
2003-03-03 15:52 ` Robert Epprecht
2003-03-03 16:55 ` Kai Großjohann
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-03-03 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> CVS Gnus from a few minutes ago:
>
> I start Gnus with
> emacs -f gnus
>
> I have the following line in my .gnus.el
> (setq gnus-plugged nil)
> and the Agent did this like I wanted since a long time, but now something
> has changed: While the Agent still seems to be unplugged (i.e. can't fetch
> articles) the Mode line of the Summary buffer pretends the contrary:
Robert,
Just as a test, try replacing (setq gnus-plugged nil) with (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil).
>
> Just after starting:
> -:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Plugged)--L2-
> C-h v gnus-plugged says: gnus-plugged's value is nil
>
> I do 'J j' and see:
> -:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Plugged)--L1-
> C-h v gnus-plugged: gnus-plugged's value is t
>
> I do another 'J j':
> -:---F1 Gnus: *Group* {nntp:news.cis.dfn.de} (Group Topic Unplugged)--L1
> C-h v gnus-plugged: gnus-plugged's value is nil
>
> Strange...
> BTW What's the L2/L1 thing at the end of the line?
Line number?
Kevin
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 15:03 ` Kevin Greiner
@ 2003-03-03 15:52 ` Robert Epprecht
2003-03-03 16:30 ` Kevin Greiner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-03-03 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
> Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> Just as a test, try replacing (setq gnus-plugged nil) with (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil).
.gnus.el:
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
(Another CVS update did not change this...)
After changing back .gnus.el I tried:
M-x apropos <RET> gnus-agent-toggle-plugged <RET>
gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
Command: Toggle whether Gnus is unplugged or not.
So I try:
.gnus.el:
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged) ;; without parameter nil
Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
Next try:
.gnus.el:
(setq debug-on-error t)
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugg$ signal(error ("Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugged"))
error("Error in %s: %s" "~/.gnus" gnus-agent-toggle-plugged)
byte-code("AÄ^H \211^ZA@)#\207" [file var x error "Error in %s: %s"] 5)
gnus-read-init-file()
gnus-1(nil nil nil)
gnus()
command-line-1(("-f" "gnus"))
command-line()
normal-top-level()
>> BTW What's the L2/L1 thing at the end of the line?
> Line number?
Oups, sorry, seems I'm blind...
Robert
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 15:52 ` Robert Epprecht
@ 2003-03-03 16:30 ` Kevin Greiner
2003-03-03 17:05 ` Robert Epprecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-03-03 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
>
>> Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
>
>> Just as a test, try replacing (setq gnus-plugged nil) with (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil).
>
> .gnus.el:
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
>
> Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
>
> (Another CVS update did not change this...)
>
> After changing back .gnus.el I tried:
> M-x apropos <RET> gnus-agent-toggle-plugged <RET>
>
> gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
> Command: Toggle whether Gnus is unplugged or not.
>
> So I try:
> .gnus.el:
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged) ;; without parameter nil
>
> Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-agent-toggle-plugged
>
>
> Next try:
> .gnus.el:
> (setq debug-on-error t)
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
I think that you need to load gnus-agent. Try this in your .gnus
(require 'gnus-agent)
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
Thanks,
Kevin
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 16:30 ` Kevin Greiner
@ 2003-03-03 17:05 ` Robert Epprecht
2003-03-03 17:55 ` Kevin Greiner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-03-03 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
> I think that you need to load gnus-agent. Try this in your .gnus
>
> (require 'gnus-agent)
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
Yes, this works now, thank you.
What about (setq gnus-plugged nil) ?
Robert
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 17:05 ` Robert Epprecht
@ 2003-03-03 17:55 ` Kevin Greiner
2003-03-03 18:15 ` Robert Epprecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-03-03 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
>
>> I think that you need to load gnus-agent. Try this in your .gnus
>>
>> (require 'gnus-agent)
>> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
>
> Yes, this works now, thank you.
>
> What about (setq gnus-plugged nil) ?
I'll have to fix the code to support initializing it to nil.
FYI, the problem that was fixed as that the code
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
would run the unplug logic twice. Now, the second call is ignored.
The problem now is that initializing gnus-plugged to nil results in
the unplug logic never being executed. So, two steps forward, one
step back.
Kevin
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 17:55 ` Kevin Greiner
@ 2003-03-03 18:15 ` Robert Epprecht
2003-03-04 1:25 ` Kevin Greiner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-03-03 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
> Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
>> What about (setq gnus-plugged nil) ?
>
> I'll have to fix the code to support initializing it to nil.
>
> FYI, the problem that was fixed as that the code
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
> would run the unplug logic twice. Now, the second call is ignored.
>
> The problem now is that initializing gnus-plugged to nil results in
> the unplug logic never being executed. So, two steps forward, one
> step back.
I for myself would not mind changing my method of having the Agent start
unplugged, but I might not be the only one trying it the way I did.
I probably read it somewhere in the manual, or was told to do so on this
list or in usenet, ages ago...
Robert
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 18:15 ` Robert Epprecht
@ 2003-03-04 1:25 ` Kevin Greiner
2003-03-04 5:58 ` Robert Epprecht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-03-04 1:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
>
>> Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
>
>>> What about (setq gnus-plugged nil) ?
>>
>> I'll have to fix the code to support initializing it to nil.
>>
>> FYI, the problem that was fixed as that the code
>> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
>> (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil)
>> would run the unplug logic twice. Now, the second call is ignored.
>>
>> The problem now is that initializing gnus-plugged to nil results in
>> the unplug logic never being executed. So, two steps forward, one
>> step back.
>
> I for myself would not mind changing my method of having the Agent start
> unplugged, but I might not be the only one trying it the way I did.
> I probably read it somewhere in the manual, or was told to do so on this
> list or in usenet, ages ago...
This problem should now be fixed in revision 6.151 of gnus-agent.el.
Kevin
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* Re: Plugged or not?
2003-03-03 14:36 Plugged or not? Robert Epprecht
2003-03-03 15:03 ` Kevin Greiner
@ 2003-03-03 16:55 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-03 17:07 ` Robert Epprecht
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-03-03 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Epprecht <epprecht@solnet.ch> writes:
> I start Gnus with
> emacs -f gnus
I also get the "Plugged" indicator in the modeline when doing "emacs
-f gnus-unplugged". But it's only the display in the modeline that's
wrong, otherwise Gnus behaves as if unplugged.
--
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.
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