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From: Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Offline and IMAP
Date: 07 Oct 1998 11:46:25 -700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x77lycw6pq.fsf@des.castles.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org's message of "Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:58:36 GMT"

>>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:58:36 GMT, Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org said:

>>>>> "WH" == Wes Hardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> writes:

JH> I don't want to seduce you to use something else than emacs/gnus,
JH> but your view on IMAP might be different,

he he...

JH> if you use Netscape Collabra or MS Outlook just a single time, to
JH> operate on *any* IMAP server.

JH> Not *in* but *under*, exactly speaking the IMAP RFC deals with
JH> even *hierarchical* folders.  so basically e.g. in Netscape
JH> Collabra, you (can) specify a subdirectory (e.g. iMail (note the
JH> difference!!!)), that carries your mail folders.

Right....  I think the *default* value if not specified by the client
should be a sub directory which is reasonable.  Yes, I can force
gnus/imap to look in one place as well, you are right.

JH> In the case of the UWASH thing, all folders besides from the INBOX
JH> are (as you found) under your home directory, resp. in a subdir thereof.

Right...  And it opens everything in existence looking for mail.
Ick.

WH> That's the impression I got by trying to run it
WH> once and finally hitting C-g 10 minutes later.

JH> That's just nnimap -- for whatever reason ...

Yes and no.  I had *no* mail in an IMAP folder yet.  It was because
the imap server defaulted to looking in my home directory for mail
folders, and it probably found some tar files, etc..., instead.

Opening nnimap for a newly created user with no home directory was
very fast.

(and nnimap is definitely slow, you're right.  Thats on purpose, from
what I understand, for development purposes).

JH> Other tools access remote IMAP folder much faster.

Of course.  elisp is not exactly an ideal programming language for
speed ;-)

WH> Actually, I want procmail to deliver mail into my imap folders,
WH> but I think this is a pipe-dream at this point...  sigh...

JH> That's exactly where I also started -- but only `wishwise'.

I have it working now actually...

(not that I read my mail using IMAP yet...)

JH> Oh, my utility sends the user's password unencrypted,
JH> because it's too hard to do Kerberos under `python circumstances'.

I haven't gotten nnimap to do kerberos yet either...  It's supposed to 
work with "itest", but I haven't found (or looked for) it yet.

-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."


  reply	other threads:[~1998-10-07 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-09-29  3:23 Lars: You're hardest challenge yet Wes Hardaker
1998-09-29  4:18 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
1998-09-29  7:46   ` Steinar Bang
1998-09-29 15:56   ` Justin Sheehy
     [not found]   ` <6f4str9vxm.fsf@dna.lth.se>
1998-09-29 21:00     ` Wes Hardaker
1998-10-01 19:36       ` Offline and IMAP (was: Re: Lars: You're hardest challenge yet) Mikael MC Cardell
1998-10-01 22:36         ` Wes Hardaker
1998-10-01 22:43           ` C. R. Oldham
1998-10-01 23:36             ` Wes Hardaker
1998-10-02 11:48               ` mdorman-ding
1998-10-02 16:07                 ` Wes Hardaker
1998-10-02 15:18             ` Justin Sheehy
1998-10-07 15:56             ` Offline and IMAP Jochen_Hayek
1998-10-07 18:03               ` Mark Moll
1998-10-02 15:29           ` Offline and IMAP (was: Re: Lars: You're hardest challenge yet) Justin Sheehy
1998-10-02 16:04             ` Steinar Bang
1998-10-03 12:36               ` Simon Josefsson
1998-10-07 15:57             ` Offline and IMAP Jochen_Hayek
1998-10-07 18:47               ` Wes Hardaker
1998-10-07 15:58           ` Jochen_Hayek
1998-10-07 18:46             ` Wes Hardaker [this message]
1998-10-02 15:26         ` Offline and IMAP (was: Re: Lars: You're hardest challenge yet) Justin Sheehy
     [not found] <glmlnms40r8.fsf@caffeine.mitre.org>
1998-10-08 13:42 ` Offline and IMAP Mark Moll

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