"Offline"

"Offline"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
expressions that cover the same ground.

Anybody have any suggestions?

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Re: "Offline"

[Hans de Graaff]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
> expressions that cover the same ground.

Connected/disconnected.

One with the world/Alone.

One advantage of off/ofline is that the words don't take up much space.

Hans

Re: "Offline"

[Edward J. Sabol]

Excerpts from mail: (29-May-97) "Offline" by Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words. It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> other vulgar things. However, I don't really know any other expressions
> that cover the same ground.

Hey! You should show a little more respect for those brave BBS SysOps and
their patrons who pioneered this little thing we call the Internet.

> Anybody have any suggestions?

"Wired" and either "Tired" or "Unwired"?

Frankly, I think "Online" and "Offline" are fine.

Later,
Ed

Re: "Offline"

[Justin Sheehy]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
> expressions that cover the same ground.

I would definitely go with "disconnected"/"connected" modes.  Not only
do I think that sounds better, it will nicely fit with existing
terminology when people end up using nnagent and nnimap together.
(i.e once both of those packages are released as part of Gnus)

-Justin

 

Re: "Offline"

[Hrvoje Niksic]

"Edward J. Sabol" <sabol@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:

> Excerpts from mail: (29-May-97) "Offline" by Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> > "Offline"/"online" are yucky words. It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> > other vulgar things. However, I don't really know any other expressions
> > that cover the same ground.
> 
> Hey! You should show a little more respect for those brave BBS
> SysOps and their patrons who pioneered this little thing we call the
> Internet.

EVRY BUDY LUVS GOOD OLD BIFF CUZ HE"S A K00L DOOD AN HE RITES REEL
AWESUM THINGZ IN CAPITULL LETTRS LIKE THIS!!!

:-)

> > Anybody have any suggestions?
> "Wired" and either "Tired" or "Unwired"?

I like Wired/Tired. :-)

> Frankly, I think "Online" and "Offline" are fine.

They're fine, technically speaking.  Only they smell bad.

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Re: "Offline"

[Per Abrahamsen]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> EVRY BUDY LUVS GOOD OLD BIFF CUZ HE"S A K00L DOOD AN HE RITES REEL
> AWESUM THINGZ IN CAPITULL LETTRS LIKE THIS!!!

[ ... ]

> I like Wired/Tired. :-)

Personally, I much prefer god old B1FF to the yuppies at Wired.

Re: "Offline"

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lars> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> Lars> other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
> Lars> expressions that cover the same ground.
> 
> Network/Local

Live/Dead
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Re: "Offline"

[Stephen Peters]

Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes:

> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> > >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> > Lars> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> > Lars> other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
> > Lars> expressions that cover the same ground.
> > 
> > Network/Local
> 
> Live/Dead

There/Here :-)

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Re: "Offline"

[Greg Stark]

"disconnected operation" is an accepted term for things like this.
There are even network filesystems that support disconnected operation
by supporting any accesses that can be fulfilled from the cache and
merging any writes with changes on the network when reconnected.

greg

Re: "Offline"

[Scott Blachowicz]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:

> "Offline"/"online"

How about "Standby"/"Active"?  Never really completely "offline" - just 
waiting for the next connection..., so "standby" make sense :-).

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Re: "Offline"

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> 
> > EVRY BUDY LUVS GOOD OLD BIFF CUZ HE"S A K00L DOOD AN HE RITES REEL
> > AWESUM THINGZ IN CAPITULL LETTRS LIKE THIS!!!
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> > I like Wired/Tired. :-)
> 
> Personally, I much prefer god old B1FF to the yuppies at Wired.

Uhm, I had no idea Wired and such had any connection to `Wired'.  I
simply like the term better than online.

B1FF was a troll anyway...

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Re: "Offline"

[Per Abrahamsen]

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

> Uhm, I had no idea Wired and such had any connection to `Wired'.  

Wired used to have a regular column named `Wired/Tired'.

They had memorable entries like 

	Tired		Wired
	-----		-----
	Melrose Place	Models Inc.

[ Two American soap operas.  I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. ]

[[ Maybe we should have a ding-discuss list. ]]

Re: "Offline"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Edward J. Sabol" <sabol@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:

> > Anybody have any suggestions?
> 
> "Wired" and either "Tired" or "Unwired"?

I would have liked those, if it weren't for the fact that we're all
contractually obligated to sneer condescendingly at those wIrEd
trendoids.  :-)

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Re: "Offline"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Justin Sheehy <dworkin@ccs.neu.edu> writes:

> I would definitely go with "disconnected"/"connected" modes. 

Yeah, those are nice enough.  But do people understand statements like
"Gnus now supports disconnected newsreading"?  Yeah, I'd think so.

Time to rename the `gnus-online' variable to `gnus-connected'!  :-)

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Re: "Offline"

[Andy Eskilsson]

Hmm (I have recently read through a couple of William(?) Gibson
books), howabout jacked in/out :-) Plugged in/out.. 

Gimme my deck.. uhm gnus, and let me jack into the matr.. eh my
gnus-server, the future _TODAY_ :-) 

	/Andy


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Re: "Offline"

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Justin Sheehy <dworkin@ccs.neu.edu> writes:
>> I would definitely go with "disconnected"/"connected" modes. 

> Yeah, those are nice enough.  But do people understand statements like
> "Gnus now supports disconnected newsreading"?  Yeah, I'd think so.

> Time to rename the `gnus-online' variable to `gnus-connected'!  :-)

I would have preferred wired/unwired, if there hadn't been a strong
chance of getting sued for it... well... wired/unwired you may get by
on... WiReD/tired, you won't.

Hmm... gnus-WiReD... gnus-tired... kinda kewl, innit...?

Re: "Offline"

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> "Edward J. Sabol" <sabol@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
>> > Anybody have any suggestions?
>> 
>> "Wired" and either "Tired" or "Unwired"?

> I would have liked those, if it weren't for the fact that we're all
> contractually obligated to sneer condescendingly at those wIrEd
> trendoids.  :-)

Don't let yourself be ruled by peer pressure, or fear of litigation!

If you like it, go for it!

Re: "Offline"

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
  Hrv> I like Wired/Tired. :-)

>>>>> Per Abrahamsen writes:
  Per> Personally, I much prefer god old B1FF to the yuppies at Wired.

Does that mean you're suggesting B1FF/B0FF?

kai
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Re: "Offline"

[Per Abrahamsen]

Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

> Plugged in/out.. 

Plugged/ Unplugged ?

I somehow like the sound of Gnus unplugged.

Re: "Offline"

[Lars Balker Rasmussen]

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
> Plugged/ Unplugged ?
> 
> I somehow like the sound of Gnus unplugged.

Ooh, yes.
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Re: "Offline"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes:

> > Plugged/ Unplugged ?
> > 
> > I somehow like the sound of Gnus unplugged.
> 
> Ooh, yes.

Mee too.  Unless MTV has taken out a patent on the word "unplugged".

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Re: "Offline"

[luis fernandes]

>>>>> "flognat" == Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:

    flognat> Hmm (I have recently read through a couple of William(?)
    flognat> Gibson books), howabout jacked in/out :-) Plugged
    flognat> in/out..

Hmmm...only a couple? You're working too hard. 

    flognat> Gimme my deck.. uhm gnus, and let me jack into the
    flognat> matr.. eh my gnus-server, the future _TODAY_ :-)

Yes, looking forward to my own SimStim Cybergnus deck manufactured by
the LarsNeotek Corporation.

Re: "Offline"

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> Andy Eskilsson <flognat@fukt.hk-r.se> writes:
> 
> > Plugged in/out.. 
> 
> Plugged/ Unplugged ?
> 
> I somehow like the sound of Gnus unplugged.

YES!  This is the one!

M-x gnus-plug RET

Great! :-)

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Re: "Offline"

[Michael Lamoureux]

 "lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

lars> Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes:
>> > Plugged/ Unplugged ?
>> > 
>> > I somehow like the sound of Gnus unplugged.
>> 
>> Ooh, yes.

lars> Mee too.

I like this one too.

lars> Unless MTV has taken out a patent on the word "unplugged".

Er...that would be a trademark.  A patent is for technology.  And I
think copyrights have something to do with software interfaces.  :-/

Anyway, even if MTV had trademarked "UnPlugged", they could only
enforce it if there was a potential for someone to confuse our use of
it with theirs (or something like that).  Clearly that won't be a
problem (unless you start getting famous musicians to start recording
gnus startup jingles  ;-)


FWIW,
Michael

Re: "Offline"

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> [[ Maybe we should have a ding-discuss list. ]]

Nah.  The volume here isn't that big.

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Re: "Offline"

[Robert Bihlmeyer]

Hi,

>>>>> On 30 May 1997 16:10:47 +0200
>>>>> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> said:

 Hrv> M-x gnus-plug RET

Should't this be `gnus-plugin'?

Everybody's doing plugins nowadays, no?

	Robbe

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Re: "Offline"

[Jason R Mastaler]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> "Offline"/"online" are yucky words.  It brings to mind M$, BBS's and
> other vulgar things.  However, I don't really know any other
> expressions that cover the same ground.
> 
> Anybody have any suggestions?

"Down"/"Up" ?

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