New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Jake Colman]

I've been avidly reading all the posts regarding Lars' rework of nnimap.
I currently use Xemacs 21.4.17 and No Gnus 0.7 (from an old CVS fetch).
Is it smart to pull the latest Gnus and jump on the bandwagon as an
Exchange 2003 IMAP user?  Or should I wait a bit longer?

How do I get fetch Gnus out of git?  I guess I need to build a git
client too...

...Jake


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Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Robert Pluim]

Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> writes:

> I've been avidly reading all the posts regarding Lars' rework of nnimap.
> I currently use Xemacs 21.4.17 and No Gnus 0.7 (from an old CVS fetch).
> Is it smart to pull the latest Gnus and jump on the bandwagon as an
> Exchange 2003 IMAP user?  Or should I wait a bit longer?
>

I don't know about Exchange 2003, but I'm happily using git gnus with
Exchange 2007 IMAP.  Probably the two implementations are wildly
different :)

> How do I get fetch Gnus out of git?  I guess I need to build a git
> client too...

git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git

should be enough (further details at <http://git.gnus.org/>).

Robert

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>:

>> How do I get fetch Gnus out of git?  I guess I need to build a git
>> client too...

> git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git

> should be enough (further details at <http://git.gnus.org/>).

I've got my cloned git repo/workspace in ~/git/gnus and here's the setup
from my ~/.emacs (it also sets up the info path, and allows you to have
a separate checkout for xemacs in ~/git/gnus.xemacs ):

;; Are we running XEmacs or Emacs?
(defvar running-xemacs (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" (emacs-version))
  "Hold a numerical value if this is XEmacs, nil if it isn't")

(defvar git-workspace (expand-file-name "~/git"))

;; Git version of Gnus:
(let ((git-gnus-directory
       (if running-xemacs
	   (concat git-workspace "/gnus.xemacs")
	 (concat git-workspace "/gnus"))))
  (push (concat git-gnus-directory "/lisp") load-path)
  (let ((git-gnus-info-dir (concat git-gnus-directory "/texi")))
    (if (boundp 'Info-directory-list)
	(push git-gnus-info-dir Info-directory-list)
      (setq Info-directory-list (append
				 (list git-gnus-info-dir)
				 Info-default-directory-list)))))

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Sep 29 2010, Steinar Bang wrote:

> ;; Are we running XEmacs or Emacs?
> (defvar running-xemacs (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" (emacs-version))
>   "Hold a numerical value if this is XEmacs, nil if it isn't")

I'd recommend (featurep 'xemacs) instead.

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Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>:

> On Wed, Sep 29 2010, Steinar Bang wrote:
>> ;; Are we running XEmacs or Emacs?
>> (defvar running-xemacs (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" (emacs-version))
>> "Hold a numerical value if this is XEmacs, nil if it isn't")

> I'd recommend (featurep 'xemacs) instead.

Ok.  My .emacs file has... er... lots of history in it.  The reference
to "Lucid", is a clue...:-)

Parts of it goes back to 18.55 in 1989.  I'm not entirely sure, because
I didn't start version controlling it until 1997, and the current
history doesn't go further back than 2001.

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

> Parts of it goes back to 18.55 in 1989.

Or 18.52, perhaps...?  I remember 18.55 as a number that stayed for a
long time.  Also 19.34.  That was before switching to an emacs with a
major version number increase, which seemed like a scary leap.

But I digress...

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Tibor Simko]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:
> I'm happily using git gnus with Exchange 2007 IMAP.

I can confirm this, including client side fancy splitting and stuff,
with the following system:

? CAPABILITY
* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI AUTH=PLAIN IDLE
  NAMESPACE LITERAL+

? LOGOUT
* BYE Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 IMAP4 server signing off.

Best regards
-- 
Tibor Simko

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Tibor Simko]

On Sun, 03 Oct 2010, Tibor Simko wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:
>> I'm happily using git gnus with Exchange 2007 IMAP.
>
> I can confirm this, including client side fancy splitting and stuff,
> with the following system:
>
> ? CAPABILITY
> * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI AUTH=PLAIN IDLE
>   NAMESPACE LITERAL+
>
> ? LOGOUT
> * BYE Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 IMAP4 server signing off.

... and Exchange 2010 works well too, in case this info may be useful to
somebody.

? CAPABILITY
* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=PLAIN CHILDREN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+

? LOGOUT
* BYE Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 IMAP4 server signing off.

Best regards
-- 
Tibor Simko

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:06:13 -0400 Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> wrote: 

Jake> I've been avidly reading all the posts regarding Lars' rework of nnimap.
Jake> I currently use Xemacs 21.4.17 and No Gnus 0.7 (from an old CVS fetch).
Jake> Is it smart to pull the latest Gnus and jump on the bandwagon as an
Jake> Exchange 2003 IMAP user?  Or should I wait a bit longer?

The Exchange fix became standard behavior IIRC.

Jake> How do I get fetch Gnus out of git?  I guess I need to build a git
Jake> client too...

We could set up a daily tarball I guess, but is it hard for you to
install http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/ or something similar?

Ted

Re: New Gnus and Exchange 2003 - Usable?

[Jake Colman]

>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

   TZ> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:06:13 -0400 Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com> wrote: 
   Jake> I've been avidly reading all the posts regarding Lars' rework of
   Jake> nnimap.
   Jake> I currently use Xemacs 21.4.17 and No Gnus 0.7 (from an old CVS fetch).
   Jake> Is it smart to pull the latest Gnus and jump on the bandwagon as an
   Jake> Exchange 2003 IMAP user?  Or should I wait a bit longer?

   TZ> The Exchange fix became standard behavior IIRC.

   Jake> How do I get fetch Gnus out of git?  I guess I need to build a git
   Jake> client too...

   TZ> We could set up a daily tarball I guess, but is it hard for you to
   TZ> install http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/ or something similar?

I shouldn't have any trouble building a git client for myself.  I'll do
that and use Steiner's suggestion for switching between my current
cvs-based gnus and the new one.

Thanks all!

...Jake

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